I've had an accident

Forum for general chat, news, blogs, humour, jokes etc.

Postby fungus » Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:29 pm


The investigator employed by my insurance company said that the thought of a no win no fee lawyer scares the pants off them. The lady, (ex police) was very thorough. She left no stone unturned. Even though I had sent photographs of the accident site, and the damage to my car, she took her own photos as she said they would show more detail.
Nigel ADI
IAM observer
User avatar
fungus
 
Posts: 1739
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:16 pm
Location: Dorset

Postby fungus » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:46 pm


An update to the accident I had when the boy cyclist rode out from behind a blind 6' wall on the 2nd July 2010.

My insurance renewal is due in March. Upon checking the details I find that the accident is listed as an at fault, pending. Third Party hit insured. The cost to date is £6466.29.

I have been informed that this accident will remain an at fault pending until the cyclists 22nd birthday, as he has until that date to make a claim against my insurance, because, it appears that the third party has three years from their 18th birthday in which to make a claim for personal injuries if they were a minor at the time of the accident. This means that as the boy is now about 15 years old, I will still have this as an at fault pending accident for around 6-7 years.

I know this may sound a bit like sour grapes, especially as I am not currently a cyclist, but I cant help feeling that may be a clause could be included in household insurance to cover cycling incidents caused by members of the policy holders household.
Nigel ADI
IAM observer
User avatar
fungus
 
Posts: 1739
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:16 pm
Location: Dorset

Postby martine » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:30 pm


fungus wrote:The cost to date is £6466.29.
:shock:

fungus wrote:I have been informed that this accident will remain an at fault pending until the cyclists 22nd birthday,
:shock: :shock:

This is so wrong...and stinks. Insurance and the law and procedures around personal injury claims and all that goes with it are in need of serious reform. It's not sustainable and has generated a whole industry based on referral fees which everyone pays for. I dislike the ambulance chasers, I dislike insurance companies who hike up premiums in the hope you won't go shopping around, I feel so sorry for young drivers who are faced with £3000 premiums on a Corsa 1.2.

By the way you've described your incident it's sounds about as straightfoward as it can get - yet you are faced with this...I would be fuming also...in fact I am on your behalf!

RTCs are going down yet premiums are going significantly up.

There must be a better way.
Martin - Bristol IAM: IMI National Observer and Group Secretary, DSA: ADI, Fleet, RoSPA (Dip)
martine
 
Posts: 4430
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:49 pm
Location: Bristol, UK




Postby TripleS » Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:32 pm


I completely agree with what Martin has just said, the system stinks when this sort of injustice is permitted.

The young cyclist was entirely responsible for the collision, but he can't pay to put things right, so his parents should. They appear to have claimed that they can't afford to pay, but the probability is that they simply don't want to pay.

In Nigel's situation I think I'd have pursued them through the Small Claims Court.

Best wishes all,
Dave.
TripleS
 
Posts: 6025
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:47 pm
Location: Briggswath, Whitby

Postby martine » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:49 pm


I've got a feeling that the small claims court won't deal with motoring cases...but I may be wrong.
Martin - Bristol IAM: IMI National Observer and Group Secretary, DSA: ADI, Fleet, RoSPA (Dip)
martine
 
Posts: 4430
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:49 pm
Location: Bristol, UK




Postby michael769 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:20 pm


martine wrote:I've got a feeling that the small claims court won't deal with motoring cases...but I may be wrong.


They deal with them all the time - or used to. It's just that with repair costs being what they are - fewer claims meet the cost limit these days.
Minds are like parachutes - they only function when open
Thomas Robert Dewar(1864-1930)
michael769
 
Posts: 1209
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:11 am
Location: Livingston

Postby TripleS » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:17 am


michael769 wrote:
martine wrote:I've got a feeling that the small claims court won't deal with motoring cases...but I may be wrong.


They deal with them all the time - or used to. It's just that with repair costs being what they are - fewer claims meet the cost limit these days.


I have just read something to the effect that the limit on cases that can be handled by the Small Claims Court could rise from the present £5,000 to £15,000. Apparently an increase is under consideration, but no change has yet been made.

Best wishes all,
Dave.
TripleS
 
Posts: 6025
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:47 pm
Location: Briggswath, Whitby

Postby fungus » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:31 pm


Thanks for the replies.

The car in question was sold 15 months ago. I didn't persue the matter through the Small Claims Court as to be honest, I felt that it was possibly too much trouble. What angers me more, is the fact that this accident will remain as an at fault pending until the cyclists 22nd birthday, when he could no longer make a claim for personal injury against the policy. Also the cost to my insurance company, whilst being small compared to the sums that insurance companies incur, when multiplied by the thousands of like incidents they have to deal with, must add up to millions, and we're all paying for this.
Nigel ADI
IAM observer
User avatar
fungus
 
Posts: 1739
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:16 pm
Location: Dorset

Postby fungus » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:04 pm


I have just found out today that the parents of this boy are pursuing a bodily injury claim against my insurance. I only found out because my wife was finalising details on our daughters insurance, and I am a named driver on her policy.
Nigel ADI
IAM observer
User avatar
fungus
 
Posts: 1739
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:16 pm
Location: Dorset

Postby martine » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:26 pm


fungus wrote:I have just found out today that the parents of this boy are pursuing a bodily injury claim against my insurance. I only found out because my wife was finalising details on our daughters insurance, and I am a named driver on her policy.

Oh for goodness sake - that's ridiculous...and no one had the decency to tell you? That can't be right in itself can it? So do you need to get a solicitor involved?
Martin - Bristol IAM: IMI National Observer and Group Secretary, DSA: ADI, Fleet, RoSPA (Dip)
martine
 
Posts: 4430
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:49 pm
Location: Bristol, UK




Postby fungus » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:30 pm


martine wrote:
fungus wrote:I have just found out today that the parents of this boy are pursuing a bodily injury claim against my insurance. I only found out because my wife was finalising details on our daughters insurance, and I am a named driver on her policy.

Oh for goodness sake - that's ridiculous...and no one had the decency to tell you? That can't be right in itself can it? So do you need to get a solicitor involved?


The claim is in the hands of the insurance company. As the costs already incurred by my insurance company total £6466 -29 up to Feb. 2012 and this has cost me on each renewal. However, I have been informed that there will be no effect on my insurance after three years. So I presume that no matter what the outcome now, there will be no further impact.

I think that what is worrying about this, is the fact that what the boys parents are basically saying to him is that morals are not important, and whether you are to blame or not, you should claim even though you only had very minor grazes.
Nigel ADI
IAM observer
User avatar
fungus
 
Posts: 1739
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:16 pm
Location: Dorset

Postby Octy_Ross » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:38 pm


Presumably, if you had taken him to court and established the boy was at fault there could be no further claim against you? In which case, presumably, it must always be worth establishing 'blame' ?
Octy_Ross
 
Posts: 460
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:24 pm
Location: Northamptonshire

Postby fungus » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:07 pm


Octy_Ross wrote:Presumably, if you had taken him to court and established the boy was at fault there could be no further claim against you? In which case, presumably, it must always be worth establishing 'blame' ?


May be, but my insurance company had already hired an investigator to cover their own back, which was going to incur costs which would impact on my insurance.
Nigel ADI
IAM observer
User avatar
fungus
 
Posts: 1739
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:16 pm
Location: Dorset

Postby zadocbrown » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:59 pm


You should have hit the little sod a bit harder. A proper accident investigation might have saved you a load of hassle... :evil:
zadocbrown
 
Posts: 929
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:52 pm

Postby TripleS » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:47 pm


zadocbrown wrote:You should have hit the little sod a bit harder. A proper accident investigation might have saved you a load of hassle... :evil:


My recollection is that Nigel didn't hit the little sod at all. I thought Nigel's car was hit on the left front wing by the cyclist.

This whole episode has been a disgraceful injustice as far as I can see - and that's before we get into this 'strict liability' nonsense. :evil: :evil:
TripleS
 
Posts: 6025
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:47 pm
Location: Briggswath, Whitby

PreviousNext

Return to General Car Chat Forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests