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Rick999 wrote:

vonhosen wrote:

jont wrote:Shame an opportunity was missed to push drivers not being kept up to scratch with modern cars
The vast majority of cars are capable of 100mph, many are capable of 140+. Isn't it time we overhauled the 40 year old laws that have failed to keep up with modern technology?

And given the fantastic reductions in driver fatalities despite the rising numbers of cars on the roads, haven't we lost rational thought when it comes to "preservation" of life? Why not focus on the hours stolen from people in congestion caused by incompetent drivers, traffic lights causing holdups where no other traffic is around, speed limits making journeys take far longer than necessary. /won't somebody think of the children?

They are working towards that, but it will lead to you not driving the vehicle. Efficient use of road space by packing vehicles closer together, all travelling at a uniform speed etc etc.
An integrated computerised system is where we'll end up & a driver performing inputs other than selecting a destination will be a thing of the past.

Not in my lifetime or anyone else's if you ask me. We can't even get trains to run on time let alone random vehicles entering a system going to different destinations. I won't be cancelling my new car order just yet

vonhosen wrote:
They are working towards that, but it will lead to you not driving the vehicle. Efficient use of road space by packing vehicles closer together, all travelling at a uniform speed etc etc.
An integrated computerised system is where we'll end up & a driver performing inputs other than selecting a destination will be a thing of the past.

WhoseGeneration wrote:

vonhosen wrote:
They are working towards that, but it will lead to you not driving the vehicle. Efficient use of road space by packing vehicles closer together, all travelling at a uniform speed etc etc.
An integrated computerised system is where we'll end up & a driver performing inputs other than selecting a destination will be a thing of the past.

Working towards a deskilling of the population, rather than the opposite.
For "They" know best.
That's not how we have progressed to our current abilities, deskilling and proscribing leads to stagnation.

MGF wrote:If we remove drivers from the process what would be the point in training them to the skill levels they have currently?

jont wrote:Shame an opportunity was missed to push drivers not being kept up to scratch with modern cars
The vast majority of cars are capable of 100mph, many are capable of 140+. Isn't it time we overhauled the 40 year old laws that have failed to keep up with modern technology?

And given the fantastic reductions in driver fatalities despite the rising numbers of cars on the roads

Horse wrote:

jont wrote:Shame an opportunity was missed to push drivers not being kept up to scratch with modern cars
The vast majority of cars are capable of 100mph, many are capable of 140+. Isn't it time we overhauled the 40 year old laws that have failed to keep up with modern technology?

And given the fantastic reductions in driver fatalities despite the rising numbers of cars on the roads

Google 'smeed' and accident rates. You may be intrigued and then need to reconsider the word 'despite' . . .

vonhosen wrote:

MGF wrote:If we remove drivers from the process what would be the point in training them to the skill levels they have currently?

We train for the system we have currently which involves them driving, but that doesn't preclude design of a future system that would make the past training redundant.

mefoster wrote:

jont wrote:I wonder if that's been driving planners in Bristol to make traffic as bad as possible as an attempt to force people out of their cars

I am pretty much convinced that is the modus operandi of the Greens in Brighton & Hove. They appear to have done, and are continuing to do, everything they can get away with to make life as difficult as possible for car drivers in the town and now they appear to be rushing as much through as they can before they get voted out at the next election.

The pessimist in me says that, despite their massive unpopularity, they'll manage to stay in. There is such a huge student vote from the two universities that it can blunt the wishes of the people that are genuinely residents rather than merely transients.

MGF wrote:

vonhosen wrote:

MGF wrote:If we remove drivers from the process what would be the point in training them to the skill levels they have currently?

We train for the system we have currently which involves them driving, but that doesn't preclude design of a future system that would make the past training redundant.

I don't think WG will find noskilling preferable to deskilling.

sussex2 wrote:

mefoster wrote:

jont wrote:I wonder if that's been driving planners in Bristol to make traffic as bad as possible as an attempt to force people out of their cars

I am pretty much convinced that is the modus operandi of the Greens in Brighton & Hove. They appear to have done, and are continuing to do, everything they can get away with to make life as difficult as possible for car drivers in the town and now they appear to be rushing as much through as they can before they get voted out at the next election.

The pessimist in me says that, despite their massive unpopularity, they'll manage to stay in. There is such a huge student vote from the two universities that it can blunt the wishes of the people that are genuinely residents rather than merely transients.

One reason why I quit Brighton years ago for places a bit further west.

fungus wrote:

MGF wrote:
I don't think WG will find noskilling preferable to deskilling.

I'm afraid I'm with WG on this one.

WhoseGeneration wrote:

fungus wrote:

MGF wrote:
I don't think WG will find noskilling preferable to deskilling.

I'm afraid I'm with WG on this one.

Perhaps it's my age and being from a generation that valued being able to turn its hand to most things necessary.
Sorta like the colonists of the past, just do it.
In terms of the modern world, research, read up and do it.
Then too, working world and friends, always those who could cross different disciplines.
I have a suspicion that the thrust of today's politicians is to render the population impotent in believing that the population is capable of doing anything that the politicians haven't approved via an organisation authorised by those politicians.

TheInsanity1234 wrote:
I suspect I'm born of the wrong generation.

I've always felt that there is a hidden agenda of the government to try and minimise the number of deaths blah blah by reducing the population into a group of drones.