Average speed cameras!

by **TheInsanity1234** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:09 pm

Do you not have to reset the cruise control every time you change gear?

by **daz6215** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:19 pm

Whats needed is prosecution for tailgating in conjunction with the average speed cameras.

by **WhoseGeneration** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:38 pm

My "adaptive cruise control" is my right foot, it's known around here as "acceleration sense".
It seems to me that much of this is further deskilling, in that the point of "acceleration sense" is that it is based upon planning and observation.
I might be in a minority of course, then I often am.

by **WhoseGeneration** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:39 pm

daz6215 wrote:Whats needed is prosecution for tailgating in conjunction with the average speed cameras.

Dream on.

by **TheInsanity1234** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:07 pm

WhoseGeneration wrote:My "adaptive cruise control" is my right foot, it's known around here as "acceleration sense".
It seems to me that much of this is further deskilling, in that the point of "acceleration sense" is that it is based upon planning and observation.
I might be in a minority of course, then I often am.

It's obviously the best cruise control there is, but there are times when you'd just want to let a machine do the job for you because you'd fall asleep otherwise :lol:

by **fungus** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:25 pm

I find the cruise control on my wifes Octavia TDI ok if the motorway is lightly traficked, but tend to turn it off in heavier traffic, and like WG, prefer to use acceleration sense.

by **daz6215** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:34 pm

WhoseGeneration wrote:
daz6215 wrote:Whats needed is prosecution for tailgating in conjunction with the average speed cameras.

Dream on.

by **WhoseGeneration** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:16 pm

TheInsanity1234 wrote:
WhoseGeneration wrote:My "adaptive cruise control" is my right foot, it's known around here as "acceleration sense".
It seems to me that much of this is further deskilling, in that the point of "acceleration sense" is that it is based upon planning and observation.
I might be in a minority of course, then I often am.

It's obviously the best cruise control there is, but there are times when you'd just want to let a machine do the job for you because you'd fall asleep otherwise

Only if you are stupid enough to not realise the potential for trouble. There is never any situation in which a driver should "fall asleep".

by **waremark** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:52 am

With adaptive cruise control I found I wanted to override it often. It was technically fantastic, but it did not start to ease off for someone moving into my lane in front of me until they were fully in my lane, and it could not adjust speed to avoid being alongside someone in the adjacent lane. I am equally happy with a regular cruise control. And heaven preserve me from lane keeping assist.

by **Terry Williams** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:47 pm

No, I don't have to switch off cruise control to change gear. I don't particularly like CC and generally only use it in light traffic.

by **TheInsanity1234** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:15 am

It's just that cruise control works, IIAC, by maintaining the throttle position, which means if you were to change gear, the throttle position would be buzzing the revs every time the clutch is pushed down?

by **jcochrane** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:52 am

TheInsanity1234 wrote:It's just that cruise control works, IIAC, by maintaining the throttle position, which means if you were to change gear, the throttle position would be buzzing the revs every time the clutch is pushed down?

On my manual Peugeot CC speed can only be set on one of the following gears 4, 5 or 6. Therefore any gear change, after it is set, up or down the box will turn it off. It's designed to be what it says..cruise control.. to be set once cruising in 4, 5, or 6 and you want to remain at that speed in that gear.

by **trashbat** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:40 am

It doesn't work on throttle position, it works on speed, because you can usually 'recall' the last set speed after changing gear. Non-adaptive systems are disengaged by pressing the brake or clutch, and you don't tend to change gear while using cruise control anyway.

by **trashbat** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:04 pm

daz6215 wrote:Whats needed is prosecution for tailgating in conjunction with the average speed cameras.

The Swedish have an automated system for this, IIRC.

by **TheInsanity1234** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:45 pm

trashbat wrote:
daz6215 wrote:Whats needed is prosecution for tailgating in conjunction with the average speed cameras.
The Swedish have an automated system for this, IIRC.

The only issue with prosecuting for tailgating is where do you set the boundary between a safe following distance, or a prosecutable distance?

3 car lengths? 10? 16 (2 seconds @ 70)? Or 24, as the braking distance from 70 is in the HWC?

What is a reasonable point?

Also, how are cameras supposed to gauge a good following distance?

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