BBC2's 'Motorway' programme

[Silk]

I take it the HA officers were given re training in how to cone off correctly ie at the required distance along with words of advice in to H+S the programme of Life on The Motorway is full of bad practises especially coning and rolling blocks where the HA officer gets out on foot and stops the slip road as we know should have been a second vehicle taking the slip road out or continuing the block past the on slip allowing it to merge into the main carriageway block.
Programmes like these alays look good from the outside but the inside their disasters waiting to happen.

Most of the problems are down to driving numpties who can't even stay on the road, let alone see obvious things such as traffic cones, and great big FO flashing lights. I think that's the message of the programme.

Perhaps it's time people were held personally responsible if their poor judgement that results in hours of delays for thousands of other road users. Prison is too good for them.

[sussex2]

I take it the HA officers were given re training in how to cone off correctly ie at the required distance along with words of advice in to H+S the programme of Life on The Motorway is full of bad practises especially coning and rolling blocks where the HA officer gets out on foot and stops the slip road as we know should have been a second vehicle taking the slip road out or continuing the block past the on slip allowing it to merge into the main carriageway block.
Programmes like these alays look good from the outside but the inside their disasters waiting to happen.

Most of the problems are down to driving numpties who can't even stay on the road, let alone see obvious things such as traffic cones, and great big FO flashing lights. I think that's the message of the programme.

Perhaps it's time people were held personally responsible if their poor judgement that results in hours of delays for thousands of other road users. Prison is too good for them.

A draconian attitude would be all well and good if the standard of driving expected was high.
We have a basic driving test which only serves to ensure that the most dangerous are not granted a licence.
There is the system which erroneously believes that practice will improve the standard of driving of those lucky enough to have passed the test.
We have authorities including the police still referring to many collisions as accidents rather than what they actually are.
Plus of course we have human beings with all their srtenghts and weaknesses.

[Horse]

I take it the HA officers were given re training in how to cone off correctly ie at the required distance

The coning of the incident in tonight's programme was as per the TO manual.

See here:
http://assets.highways.gov.uk/specialis ... Report.pdf

Appendix B Traffic Officer Manual Version 3.2. Extract: ETM Diagram 2 (V10) Lane 1 Closure

[Stephen]

From what I can see in the video there is 4 cones placed out prior to the vehicle ie HA/TOV the manual shows that it should be 9 cones at 12.5m gaps to the front of the TOV which simply is not the case have I got it wrong.

[Horse]

From what I can see in the video there is 4 cones placed out prior to the vehicle ie HA/TOV the manual shows that it should be 9 cones at 12.5m gaps to the front of the TOV which simply is not the case have I got it wrong.

"Cone out as required . . . " it says on the diagram.

Not as if piddly cones downstream of the TOV would have made any difference to an HGV driver going under Red X signals who didn't see and understand beacons on a vehicle.

[Stephen]

Correct but if the procedure is not followed then breach of H+S act at work its all about safety and professionalism

[Horse]

Still wouldn't have stopped the HGV. I don't understand what point you're making.