akirk wrote:Silk wrote:Clock the 150,000 miler back to 30,000 and you'll have a car that's been better maintained and will probably last longer than the one with genuine mileage of the same age.
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Clockers are providing a necessary service by creating a market for quality cars that would otherwise get overlooked because of a number.
Do you really believe this, or do you just get your kicks from posting rubbish online?!
I like to look at things from a different point of view now and again. If you prefer to believe everything you read without question, perhaps this thread isn't for you.
akirk wrote:If a car at 150,000 miles (well looked after) is in your view the same as a car of 30,000 miles, would that 150k car not have been in even better condition at 30k?! Your logic is flawed.
No, YOUR logic is flawed. At 30K the car was less than 9 months old.
akirk wrote:There is no way that with two cars both looked after identically one at 150,000 will ever be the same or better than one at 30,000 - there will always be elements that are more worn - the brake pads might have been replaced, but the carpets / the seats / the headliner, the chassis, the engine, etc. etc. etc. will all be worse...
I've already pointed out that the consumables would have been replaced during routing servicing. With regards to the general condition of the car. Anyone, including some on this forum who have seen for themselves, will testify that my cars are always in practically mint condition, regardless of mileage. On the other hand, I know of cars that have only covered average mileage that look like the inside of a skip. So, yes, there's every possibility that my high-milers are in better condition in *every* respect than an equivalent low-miler that's been treated badly.
akirk wrote:Clockers are only providing one thing - more profit for themselves at the cost of someone else = fraud = crime.
Yeah, we know all that. You could apply the same logic to anything that's done to a car to increase its perceived value. You could also argue that the buyer should decide for themselves - the problem with that is the trade deliberately hides high mileage cars from the retail side, so potential buyers rarely get the opportunity to do this. Most of these cars either end up as taxis or clocked. The trade doesn't want you to know how reliable modern cars are. They would rather you traded them in as soon as possible. If you want to look for fraud and dodgy dealings in the motor trade, you need to look a lot further than just clocking.