IVORTHE DRIVER wrote:Hi guys,
Seeing as how the aim of the emergency stop is to avoid hitting something what idiot is teaching someone not to hit the pedal too hard!!
ABS can help the vehicle stop quicker by preventing skidding and that is a fact regardless of road conditions.
I also feel that pupils should be actively encouraged to experience the sensation of ABS assisted braking so that they realise what the brake pedal feels like, I have demonstrated this to my wife just in case but sadly I have not yet managed to convince her to try it for herself!
Ivor
IVORTHE DRIVER wrote:
ABS can help the vehicle stop quicker by preventing skidding and that is a fact regardless of road conditions.
TripleS wrote:I don't know how feasible this is, but I would like future developments in ABS to get rid of the pulsing/vibration that is felt at the pedal when ABS activates. This would be a better subject for attention than some of the other crap that the designers are putting into cars.
It might be that some drivers - especially those of a more sensitive disposition - take the vibrating pedal to be a sign that something is wrong with the braking system, and they may react by reducing the pedal pressure, which then renders the ABS useless.
jont wrote:TripleS wrote:I don't know how feasible this is, but I would like future developments in ABS to get rid of the pulsing/vibration that is felt at the pedal when ABS activates. This would be a better subject for attention than some of the other crap that the designers are putting into cars.
It might be that some drivers - especially those of a more sensitive disposition - take the vibrating pedal to be a sign that something is wrong with the braking system, and they may react by reducing the pedal pressure, which then renders the ABS useless.
Hence one of the latest technologies which is emergency brake assist. I think it detects you suddenly applying lots of brake, and then if you suddenly back off (possibly because the ABS has activated), it keeps brake pressure applied. I don't know the details as I've never come across the system in anger so to speak.
drivingschoolnewbury wrote:When I took my part 3 to become an ADI I had to teach the emergency stop. Securing the car was "handbrake and then neutral". Even though I passed the examiner said it should have been handbrake and gear 1. The reason he gave was that if there is a big lorry behind who can't stop in time you have the option of pulling forward, if you have the space of course.
However one of my pupils was told by a senior examiner it should be "handbrake and neutral"
What does everyone else think?
drivingschoolnewbury wrote:Anyone know the correct proceedure after you stop?
When I took my part 3 to become an ADI I had to teach the emergency stop. Securing the car was "handbrake and then neutral". Even though I passed the examiner said it should have been handbrake and gear 1. The reason he gave was that if there is a big lorry behind who can't stop in time you have the option of pulling forward, if you have the space of course.
However one of my pupils was told by a senior examiner it should be "handbrake and neutral"
What does everyone else think?
crr003 wrote:Driving the essential skills says "Unless you're moving off again straight away, put the parking brake on and the gear lever into neutral." implying no need even for the handbrake?!
Gareth wrote:crr003 wrote:Driving the essential skills says "Unless you're moving off again straight away, put the parking brake on and the gear lever into neutral." implying no need even for the handbrake?!
I'd be (mildly/vaguely) interested in your interpretation of the difference between parking brake and handbrake.
ROG wrote:You would need a lot of forward space to reduce any impact.
There is also the argument that being in neutral and just releasing the handbrake would allow much of the impact force to be absorbed by the truck freely pushing it forwards ....... but i'll let the techno folks on here go more into that ......
Marriott wrote:Break first clutch after, if you apply the clutch at the same time you have less control of the car.
With the clutch up the gears are still engaged and will help with slowing down the car.
ABS enables you to steer while breaking as your wheels don't lock up, so if you have to break hard then you can still try and steer away from an accident but ABS slightly increases your stopping distance.
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