trashbat wrote:but failed to take decisive action because his captain had greater (social) authority.
trashbat wrote:Does this stuff crop up to any significant degree anywhere in civilian driving? For example I mean in something like Masters, or in other countries, or in say how the authorities communicate with young drivers to try and reduce the casualty rates.
trashbat wrote:Why it would put anyone off, I don't understand. There's a piece in the opening section of Roadcraft that tackles the subject of mental state and attitude.
7db wrote:trashbat wrote:but failed to take decisive action because his captain had greater (social) authority.
This is a fascinating example and Von identified the same effect in a post earlier in this page. It's certainly something I notice in driving with other AD people. There's nearly always a "senior" co-driver in the car and it distorts the drive of both parties. I am at a loss as to how to improve that. I think it needs to come from the senior co-driver's lead.
waremark wrote:7db wrote:trashbat wrote:but failed to take decisive action because his captain had greater (social) authority.
This is a fascinating example and Von identified the same effect in a post earlier in this page. It's certainly something I notice in driving with other AD people. There's nearly always a "senior" co-driver in the car and it distorts the drive of both parties. I am at a loss as to how to improve that. I think it needs to come from the senior co-driver's lead.
So as one who is often regarded as the senior I try to say something along the lines of 'we all make mistakes, so do tell me if I do something which looks wrong to you'. I don't suppose it works. I am unlikely to say anything when I am the junior.
On the wider issue, I did ask because I don't naturally understand, and I understand a little better now than I did before. I should have thought those who dont find this helpful, and are not interested would just ignore this thread.
I recognise the importance of psychological factors, but VH makes it sound as though consideration of these issues is the be all and end all of driver development. I consider that a fair body of teaching is required covering skills and techniques. We want advanced drivers to want to regard safety as a high priority at all times, but we also want them to understand how to go about prioritising safety, vision and stability in planning a course - and my view is that such things can be taught more satisfactorily than they can be discovered.
7db wrote:trashbat wrote:but failed to take decisive action because his captain had greater (social) authority.
This is a fascinating example and Von identified the same effect in a post earlier in this page. It's certainly something I notice in driving with other AD people. There's nearly always a "senior" co-driver in the car and it distorts the drive of both parties. I am at a loss as to how to improve that. I think it needs to come from the senior co-driver's lead.
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