triquet wrote:I think these little roads remain at NSL simply because there are too many of them to do the necessary legals and to put up and maintain signage. Common sense has to prevail.
jont wrote:All extra-urban roads should be NSL (where N means "No" )
triquet wrote:On these very narrow windy roads, I'm not really sure whether limit point really works
trashbat wrote:triquet wrote:On these very narrow windy roads, I'm not really sure whether limit point really works
Why not? You were always supposed to underline it with speed appropriate for the 'be able stop in the distance you can see to be clear' rule - or in this case, twice the distance.
triquet wrote:Yes, ideally. But on sunken lanes (Devon, Corwall, Normandie) the limit point can be only a few feet away ...
04smallmj wrote:Interesting thoughts .
Triquet - Yes it's interesting that the speed limits haven't been changed on them for decades, I would have thought that they would be reduced by now, considering the changes to other speed limits.
Ralge wrote:The primary routes with heavier traffic flows through busy risk-laden junctions (poor sight lines etc) see far more Council interventions since they have a far higher crash rate.
martine wrote:Ralge wrote:The primary routes with heavier traffic flows through busy risk-laden junctions (poor sight lines etc) see far more Council interventions since they have a far higher crash rate.
More crashes per year but probably less crashes compared to traffic count. There seems to be a disconnect between setting a speed limit and the risk for an individual driver. It does seem strange, if speed limits are seen as a way of managing risk, to have lower speed limits on good quality A roads than the adjacent unclassified or C roads.
triquet wrote:I did a couple of journeys this weekend using little narrow NSL country roads. I had onboard Mrs T and a friend and a quantity of picnic stuff. It became apparent that it wasn't really visibility that was the primary limiting factor, it was the state of the road surface. There were a number of straight stretches on which I could have made so-called "progress" but in practice to drive at speed on the third-world minor roads of Oxfordshire would a) have shaken the champagne up and caused an Opening Incident and b) caused passengers to have bumps on head and/or Dental Disasters.
This AD lark can be limited by extraneous factors that we don't always think about
superplum wrote:triquet wrote:I did a couple of journeys this weekend using little narrow NSL country roads. I had onboard Mrs T and a friend and a quantity of picnic stuff. It became apparent that it wasn't really visibility that was the primary limiting factor, it was the state of the road surface. There were a number of straight stretches on which I could have made so-called "progress" but in practice to drive at speed on the third-world minor roads of Oxfordshire would a) have shaken the champagne up and caused an Opening Incident and b) caused passengers to have bumps on head and/or Dental Disasters.
This AD lark can be limited by extraneous factors that we don't always think about
Like weekend picnickers driving slowly on country roads?
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