martine wrote:I sympathise. I passed my advanced test, Observer test and Senior Obs test all with overlapping - so I really wouldn't get too hung up about it. There are some purists, as you call them, that practice complete seperation but I am happy to do what most would call "partial overlap'. If you don't know, this is where you might be on the brakes during the gear change but by the time the clutch needs to come up, you're off the brakes - thus allowing rev-matching etc.
For me, I feel with partial overlap, the approach to junctions is smoother without upsetting those around (as you experienced). It might be sloppy in some people's eyes.
plumber wrote:I planned to brake to around 2nd gear and get off the brake by the start of the mouth of the right turn. As I came to the gear change the car in View road shot out into my path.
Gareth wrote:It's very important to be in a flexible gear before you start braking, especially so in a car with a diesel engine. You should be doing this anyway, as a matter of course. If you are not, perhaps for reasons of economy, you really ought to consider returning to a flexible gear before you run though the sequence for approaching a hazard.
Gareth wrote:plumber wrote:The advantage of partial overlap is that you can complete the braking later and carry out the gear change closer to the hazard. If this is your aim, the obvious next step is to practice heel & toe ...
waremark wrote:I agree with the partial overlap bit but not with the importance of being in a flexible gear.
superplum wrote:BGOL, who needs BGOL! The salient point from the OP was "I planned to brake to around 2nd gear and get off the brake by the start of the mouth of the right turn". In essence, that was too late and he should have already been in the correct gear by that time - earlier actions would have allowed additional time for the other driver to have accomplished his manoeuvre without causing any grief.
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