TheInsanity1234 wrote:WhoseGeneration wrote:Ralge wrote:
What is "rather rote"?
Thinking about this, it was rather a poor phrase on my part. It's just that I was concerned that TheInsanity1234 having obviously read and researched much about driving, especially here, would, perhaps, try to introduce to his initial learning techniques and approaches that might complicate that initial learning.
Oh dear, I note he's already a bit anti Pull Push.
That's part of my point, he's not yet tried it or been on an ADUK day and seen that many are very good drivers who often and some, mainly, use that technique.
Have to obtain the GCSE before you can progress up the ladder to a PhD.
Hence why I was just going to accept whatever the instructor told me as fact, then when I pass I would experiment with different methods of doing something until I found one I was comfortable doing.
Also, I'm not against push-pull (the one where both hands move 180° up and down on both sides of the wheel, if that makes sense), it's the shuffle I dislike as it's a complete waste of time.
Unfortunately, a lot of learners seem to think the shuffle is the "official" method of steering.
Huge generalisation here - "lot of learners" "shuffle"?
My own generalisation, my own take on it:
Somewhere in the process, pull-push may or may not be taught (poorly, ineffectively?) but not adopted in its purest form and it becomes "shuffle". Once passed, the driver understands it intuitively to be inefficient and hand over hand comes in and this applies to the bulk of the driving public that I sit next to daily (without having to bite my nails about it).
It is only in the last few years that the DSA officially noted that crossing hands would not be marked down and some instructors, no doubt, are unaware of this. If I had learners, I would let them get on with what they are comfortable with and only intervene with, say, pull-push if they risk knotting their arms ... Pull-push unties the knot.
Because of muscle groups and gravity a pull-down first before a push-up is best. I wondered about this but did find very early on that ragged, imprecise steering went away having got the pupil to pull down first.
In any case, there are lots of far more important things than steering (hands and feet things) to master - that's why the DVSA have downgraded steering methods in their marking scheme.
Find a decent instructor and you won't need to think "yeah, yeah, I'll be ditching that as soon as ..." - one that teaches qualified drivers "defensive" and "advanced" (and who is qualified to do so, too) but that's my being partial rather than impartial. The one who will teach you to drive not just pass a test.
Fleet ADI, RoSPA Dip, RoADTest examiner.