Survey names ten most-feared UK road junctions

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Postby The Thinker » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:34 pm


I read this article

http://www.the-actuary.org.uk/688959

It lists the 10 most troublesome junctions as

1 Hanger Lane Gyratory System, London (28%)
2 Spaghetti Junction, Birmingham (26%)
3 Marble Arch, London (25%)
4 Elephant and Castle, London (23%)
5 South Mimms, A1/M25 (19%)
6 M4/M5 interchange, Bristol (18%)
7 Magic Roundabout, Swindon (17%)
8 M6 junctions through central Glasgow (14%)
9 Mancunian Way junctions, Manchester (13%)
10 Sheriffhall Roundabout, Edinburgh (11%)

Anyone got any more?
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Postby OILY PAWS » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:41 pm


I don't really see the problems with 8 & 10, 10's quite easy to get round
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Postby manilva15b » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:05 pm


Stange that "most feared" does not agree with "most dangerous":

See EuroRap - http://217.174.251.13/road_lookup?searc ... y=GB&road= and their "black" roads (list below).

[list=]A1103 A631 - A46
A1303 M11 J13 - A14
A628 A616 - Penistone
A682 M65 J13 - A65 Long Preston
A761 Paisley - M8
A99 A9 Latheron - Wick [/list]

Not one motorway (excluding their junctions with other roads, above) scores more than a yellow (low-medium) risk - which is what you would expect.

The EuroRap criteria start with >20 KSIs in 3 years over a (roughly) 20km stretch.

Whereas the Actuary report is merely an opinion poll :roll: Not very useful as a road planning / engineering tool.

PS: If you want a scary moment, look up Spain :shock: Now perhaps you can see why Spain qualifies for so much EU money to improve its road infrastructure.
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Postby Big Err » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:05 pm


Quality report!

The M6 in central Glasgow?

Sherrifhall is just a signalised roundabout - nothing dramatic? 31 slight injury collisions in 3 years for a 6 arm roundabout...
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Postby Big Err » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:08 pm


manilva15b wrote:Not one motorway (excluding their junctions with other roads, above) scores more than a yellow (low-medium) risk - which is what you would expect.


Agreed, the Sheriffhall roundabout sits on the Edinburgh City Bypass, which scored as one of the safest roads (according to EuroRAP) in Scotland.
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Postby TripleS » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:46 pm


manilva15b wrote:Stange that "most feared" does not agree with "most dangerous":

See EuroRap - http://217.174.251.13/road_lookup?searc ... y=GB&road= and their "black" roads (list below).

A628 A616 - Penistone. - well, fairly near.


What's wrong with this one? It used to be a crossroads by the Flouch Inn, but it's been a roundabout for several years now.

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Postby Big Err » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:52 pm


manilva15b wrote:Stange that "most feared" does not agree with "most dangerous":


Not too surprising in my own experience. The junction that is perceived to be dangerous quite often has a good safety record. Possibly due to this perception and road users exercising more care as a result?
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Postby manilva15b » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:08 pm


The test data for the UK is 2001-2003. Changes to road layouts after then would not affect the road rating unless re-tested.
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Postby The Thinker » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:10 pm


Whereas the Actuary report is merely an opinion poll Not very useful as a road planning / engineering tool.


I would guess the list is the brainchild of a marketing department with the main purpose of getting a company name in a paper with a link to concerns about road safety rather cheaply. However they are usually good to start conversations and find out other opinions so they do not do any harm.

I would guess the list matches fairly closely with the busiest junctions, which is what most people would find difficult.
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Postby jamei » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:02 pm


manilva15b wrote:Stange that "most feared" does not agree with "most dangerous":

See EuroRap - http://217.174.251.13/road_lookup?searc ... y=GB&road= and their "black" roads (list below).

[list=]
A1303 M11 J13 - A14


I was very surprised to see this on the list, it has to be one of the simplest and easiest motorway junctions I have come across

here 's a photo of it

Compare that to this, just up the road, which is poorly designed and seems to have incidents on a regular basis.
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