7db wrote:The glinting dome? Able to chat? Surely not...such a quiet fellow...
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jcochrane wrote:Horse wrote:
OK, so let's have some more detail of that 'much to learn'
What was he doing differently?
How was he doing it?
How could you tell what he was doing 'better' - what 'yardstick' is there to measure each of the differences?
If you can think like that then you can work towards closing the gap.
It's not quite that simple. Even if the precision and consistency could be matched there is still that extra element that can't be defined. Like a top artist in any field they bring something to a performance that makes it stand out..a special energy.....what it is nobody can tell but they will recognise it when they see or hear it.
vonhosen wrote:jcochrane wrote:Horse wrote:
OK, so let's have some more detail of that 'much to learn'
What was he doing differently?
How was he doing it?
How could you tell what he was doing 'better' - what 'yardstick' is there to measure each of the differences?
If you can think like that then you can work towards closing the gap.
It's not quite that simple. Even if the precision and consistency could be matched there is still that extra element that can't be defined. Like a top artist in any field they bring something to a performance that makes it stand out..a special energy.....what it is nobody can tell but they will recognise it when they see or hear it.
Different people prefer different artists, not all tastes are the same.
vonhosen wrote:jcochrane wrote:Horse wrote:If you can think like that then you can work towards closing the gap.
It's not quite that simple. Even if the precision and consistency could be matched there is still that extra element that can't be defined. Like a top artist in any field they bring something to a performance that makes it stand out..a special energy.....what it is nobody can tell but they will recognise it when they see or hear it.
Different people prefer different artists, not all tastes are the same.
jont wrote:I think that was agreed previously (that peoples idea of who the "best" driver is would differ), but can you objectively differentiate between the performances of say Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and David Gilmour?
jont wrote:vonhosen wrote:
Different people prefer different artists, not all tastes are the same.
I think that was agreed previously (that peoples idea of who the "best" driver is would differ), but can you objectively differentiate between the performances of say Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and David Gilmour?
Horse wrote:jcochrane wrote:Words cannot do justice to that drive, awesome. Pace, balance, flow, smooth as silk.
OK, so let's have some more detail of that 'much to learn'
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:I'm confused. Who are we referring to as the OP here, since JC started this thread as well![]()
Horse wrote:vonhosen wrote:
Different people prefer different artists, not all tastes are the same.
If I read it correctly, the OP would love to drive in the way demonstrated, so that's the artist he wishes to emulate.
As for the 'extra element'? So what? Surely the key is for the OP to define what he wants to achieve that the other driver was doing? There's a 'heirachy' too: work on safety-related items first, etc.
And you've [Cochrane] started that by mentioning precision and consistency. So now it's for the OP to break it down further, and decide what he wants. Or are you saying he shouldn't bother even trying because training isn't required - it's natural talent only?![]()
vonhosen wrote:Horse wrote:vonhosen wrote:
Different people prefer different artists, not all tastes are the same.
Or are you saying he shouldn't bother even trying because training isn't required - it's natural talent only?![]()
Not saying it's natural talent only, but we are all different people & who we are will be a part of our exhibited driving.
It's far easier to identify & emulate what somebody does technically, not so easy to copy ( or should we try ?) the personality of or behind the drive.
Horse wrote:vonhosen wrote:
Not saying it's natural talent only, but we are all different people & who we are will be a part of our exhibited driving.
It's far easier to identify & emulate what somebody does technically, not so easy to copy ( or should we try ?) the personality of or behind the drive.
Fair point. And there was a big cheesy grin smiley behind that line
But perhaps that personality is the real thing that should be emulated?
Assuming that it's what someone wants to change about their driving - and I mean that in the sense that if a driver has a calm, relaxed, 'in control' style, then they're not things that can be easily learned from a book - but they are aspects of personality which have a heavy influence on the person's driving style. Contrast that against, for example, someone who has an aggressive personality.
Again, it returns to analysing what you (who? anyone?) wants to change - what they want to become. One thing can lead to another, and perhaps emulating - for instance - relaxed confidence personality will allow a relaxed, confident drive to materialise?
(Note that 'confidence' can be in having the confidence to say 'No' to an overtake - rather than over-confidence in abilities.)
That 'personality', or attitude, can be influenced even by the way terminology is used.
vonhosen wrote: A little individuality & personal flare should be celebrated.
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