fungus wrote:As I drew parallel to the car in front that was turning right, the car waiting to emerge pulled out very quickly, I can only assume that the driver in front who was turning right had flashed him out. Braking was not an option (I was too close), the emerging driver would have hit the front O S. of my car. I opted to accelerate out of trouble. If my car had been limited, I would not have been able to avoid a collision. After accelerating out of trouble I then had to brake because I was now traveling at about 40mph and there was a speed camera ahead.
This incident has confirmed what I have always believed, that the driver must have ultimate control of the vehicle, not a device that limits the drivers ability to act appropriately.
MGF wrote:fungus wrote:As I drew parallel to the car in front that was turning right, the car waiting to emerge pulled out very quickly, I can only assume that the driver in front who was turning right had flashed him out. Braking was not an option (I was too close), the emerging driver would have hit the front O S. of my car. I opted to accelerate out of trouble. If my car had been limited, I would not have been able to avoid a collision. After accelerating out of trouble I then had to brake because I was now traveling at about 40mph and there was a speed camera ahead.
This incident has confirmed what I have always believed, that the driver must have ultimate control of the vehicle, not a device that limits the drivers ability to act appropriately.
If you were exercising 'ultimate control' how come you didn't anticipate the car pulling out in front of you and adjust your speed accordingly?
I agree, because you had approached the hazard too fast your instinctive reaction was to to accelerate. Perhaps these systems should have an over-ride where if you floor the accelerator pedal you will get instant but temporary acceleration.
spurs-442 wrote:....
The question then becomes - what is temporary?
spurs-442 wrote:The only place i can see this working is on the motorway where a limit of 75-80mph is applied (thus allowing overtaking to occur safely) a bit like cruise control.
daz6215 wrote:If everyone was limited to 70mph it would cause chaos,
Big Err wrote:daz6215 wrote:If everyone was limited to 70mph it would cause chaos,
Not sure on that. The reason two HGVs passing each other at 56mph and 56.5mph creates an issue is that everyone else in cars can do 70mph.
Take a look at areas with average speed cameras in operation, the traffic flows ok with high occupancy in all lanes and not much chaos and that's where most vehicles are running with a speed difference of only a couple of mph.
daz6215 wrote:Yeah i would agree and i can see your point, but one of the singlest biggest things that LGV's do as a result of limiting is tailgate one another, if this technology were fitted to cars it would be pandamoniam, just my opinion of course.
Big Err wrote:daz6215 wrote:If everyone was limited to 70mph it would cause chaos,
Not sure on that. The reason two HGVs passing each other at 56mph and 56.5mph creates an issue is that everyone else in cars can do 70mph.
michael769 wrote:You presume there won't be anything doing more that 70. There will of course - any emergency vehicle. What do they do when you have to deal with two long streams of cars on a two lane motorway or dual carriageway one doing 69.2 and the other doing 69.9?
Big Err wrote:daz6215 wrote:Yeah i would agree and i can see your point, but one of the singlest biggest things that LGV's do as a result of limiting is tailgate one another, if this technology were fitted to cars it would be pandamoniam, just my opinion of course.
It's the threat of a ticket that controls the driver behaviour at average speed camera, and yes I agree with the tailgaiting. You see it with people who currently drive with cruise control on - no use of acceleration sense.
vonhosen wrote:In years to come no doubt vehicle spacing will be managed by technology rather than the driver.
daz6215 wrote:Funny i was under the impression that most incidents occurred in roads under 40 mph, at lower speeds.
Darren wrote:vonhosen wrote:In years to come no doubt vehicle spacing will be managed by technology rather than the driver.
One of my customers develops exactly this type of technology.
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