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TripleS wrote: Yes, but what worries me is that some of what I think I know might turn out to be wrong. I think it is best for readers to consider a variety of advice before deciding in their own good time what makes most sense in relation to what they are trying to achieve.

Indeed!

Part of what I 'do' is to try and spread the knowledge - but alongside that I try to improve it, often by exploring parallels or alternatives.

eg Although my 'background' as a civvie is Roadcraft-biased, I took a fair amount of time and effort to get to know, and qualify in, US-based methods and techniques. Then I put those into use in my own training, and started to promulgate the information as widely as possible. Not everyone agreed - but one or two 'antis' very publicly stated how much they'd benefitted - and how UK training was behind the times!

TripleS wrote:I think it is best for readers to consider a variety of advice before deciding in their own good time what makes most sense in relation to what they are trying to achieve.

I think that whether or not this is good advice depends to a large extent on what level they are currently at. For a relatively inexperienced driver it almost certainly makes good sense to try to take on board all the advice of a very experienced coach. Only at a much later stage and when the understand the pro's and con's would I advise them to pick and choose which advice they think works for them.

waremark wrote:

TripleS wrote:I think it is best for readers to consider a variety of advice before deciding in their own good time what makes most sense in relation to what they are trying to achieve.

I think that whether or not this is good advice depends to a large extent on what level they are currently at.

Or whether they have particular problems.

Sometimes it's a case of 'improving', other times 'fixing' - but even then the advice can overlap or come from the same roots.

Edit: But I see one of the key elements to be that the person involved doesn't just get 'taught' (and true 'coaching' doesn't involve 'telling'), but learns to be self-aware, to be able to determine how well they are doing and assess whether things they try work or not.

waremark wrote:For a relatively inexperienced driver it almost certainly makes good sense to try to take on board all the advice of a very experienced coach.

I think this is why I find this forum so helpful.

Horse wrote: But I see one of the key elements to be that the person involved doesn't just get 'taught' (and true 'coaching' doesn't involve 'telling'), but learns to be self-aware, to be able to determine how well they are doing and assess whether things they try work or not.

My Adi (no5) - the one who got me through my test- has similar teaching method, which at times could be really annoying, as he was forever asking 'why' i did this or 'what did i think about that situation' and could I of handled such and such better. This has definately helped me to be the driver I am..and gave me the anticipation and awareness I now have ...and probably the determination to keep on learning

x-Sonia-x wrote: My Adi (no5) - the one who got me through my test- has similar teaching method, which at times could be really annoying, as he was forever asking 'why' i did this or 'what did i think about that situation' and could I of handled such and such better. This has definately helped me to be the driver I am..and gave me the anticipation and awareness I now have ...and probably the determination to keep on learning

Oddly, I like it when a trainee asks me 'Why?'

Not because it gives me an opportunity to shine but because if I can't justify or explain then I need to rethink or redefine the technique or training. The result is usually clarity for both of us, and future trainees.

waremark wrote:

TripleS wrote:I think it is best for readers to consider a variety of advice before deciding in their own good time what makes most sense in relation to what they are trying to achieve.

I think that whether or not this is good advice depends to a large extent on what level they are currently at. For a relatively inexperienced driver it almost certainly makes good sense to try to take on board all the advice of a very experienced coach. Only at a much later stage and when they understand the pro's and con's would I advise them to pick and choose which advice they think works for them.

OK, that's a useful improvement on what I said; but when the novice becomes more experienced and acquires a better feel for judging things I would hope everything remains open for review - and possible alteration - even those things they accepted without question in the earlier stages of their driving development.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

TripleS wrote:OK, that's a useful improvement on what I said; but when the novice becomes more experienced and acquires a better feel for judging things I would hope everything remains open for review - and possible alteration - even those things they accepted without question in the earlier stages of their driving development.

I do class myself as a novice..definately...but I also do question situations and events, simply coz thats the way I am ...but then again I think that is human nature anyway, we learn from the knowledge we are given and how we choose to use that information is on a personal basis. At this stage of my driving I am more than willing to take onboard as much info as anyone is prepared to offer