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National speed limit lowered to 50 Mph

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:23 pm
by Standard Dave
Well if some people get their way it will be.

Lincolnshire Echo

'SLASH SPEED LIMIT TO 50MPH' BID
08:00 - 31 December 2007



Every 60mph speed limit in Lincolnshire could be cut to 50mph if councillors agree to back campaigners.

Neighbouring East Midlands councils are pressing for the Department for Transport to lower the national limit on all single carriageways.

And Lincolnshire councillors will consider whether to lend their support to the campaign at a meeting next week.



The aim is to improve road safety and reduce the number of fatal accidents on rural routes.

The Lincolnshire Road Safety Partnership said it would welcome a reduction to 50mph across the county's entire road network, excluding dual carriageways.

County council leader Martin Hill today said that he would be prepared to listen to residents' views before deciding whether to join the campaign.

Highways staff are currently preparing to begin a four-year review of all A and B roads - a network covering 1,137 miles.

All other authorities have been told to do the same.

The review will use new Department of Transport guidance on speed limits.

It is expected that a large number of roads with current 60mph limits would have them reduced to 50mph as a result of the new formula.

National speed limits do not have to be regularly signed along the carriageway but all others do. That means a mass reduction to 50mph will cost authorities millions.

Councillor Hill said he was personally unconvinced about the need to reduce speed limits.

"We are obviously interested in what people have to say but, personally, I think that 60mph is a reasonable limit for some of Lincolnshire's roads, especially the rural C-class roads," he said.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:37 pm
by martine
Oh no...this is very worrying...hopefully the councilors will fear losing their seats enough to reject this. :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:55 pm
by ScoobyChris
It doesn't sound like Councillor Hill was too convinced by the proposal. Maybe it's opportunities like these that IAM/RoSPA/AD-UK should be jumping on to promote Advanced Driving as a more cost effective solution to the problem?

Chris

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:02 pm
by martine
ScoobyChris wrote:Maybe it's opportunities like these that IAM/RoSPA/AD-UK should be jumping on to promote Advanced Driving as a more cost effective solution to the problem?
Chris


Absolooootelly!

(I'll give IAM HQ a nudge along with Darren from here!)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:25 pm
by TripleS
Sheer lunacy!

I feel it will do nothing useful in terms of better safety, and it may ultimately be found to have done more harm.

My percentage excesses in NSL terms will simply take a leap upwards. :cool:

<wanders off sadly, to the tune of "I'm glad I'm not young anymore!">

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Re: National speed limit lowered to 50 Mph

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:05 pm
by Red Herring
Standard Dave wrote:The Lincolnshire Road Safety Partnership said it would welcome a reduction to 50mph across the county's entire road network, excluding dual carriageways.

County council leader Martin Hill today said that he would be prepared to listen to residents' views before deciding whether to join the campaign.


I'm not surprised the partnership welcomes the proposal, just imagine how many more cameras they could put up.

I hadn't realised the residents of Lincolnshire were all road safety experts, I wonder if he will listen to their views if they all tell him to get lost?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:54 pm
by waremark
What about getting a group together to campaign for an increase to 70?

The voters of Lincolnshire need to make their views clear.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:35 pm
by TripleS
waremark wrote:What about getting a group together to campaign for an increase to 70?

The voters of Lincolnshire need to make their views clear.


Indeed.

Rick - are you on this case?

Best wishes all,
Dave.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:57 pm
by Roger
Not my area, but do consider an e-petition...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:24 am
by nodigitsever
not suprised really as the driving standards in Lincs are of late abysmal due to the high number of Immigrants who cant drive for toffees!

yet we are all to suffer! :twisted:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:41 pm
by PeterE
Rumours of such a move have also appeared on Pistonheads:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... 0&t=478202

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:24 am
by Rick
TripleS wrote:
waremark wrote:What about getting a group together to campaign for an increase to 70?

The voters of Lincolnshire need to make their views clear.


Indeed.

Rick - are you on this case?

Best wishes all,
Dave.


Just seen this Dave, will look into this! Numpties!

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:51 pm
by zippyRN
nodigitsever wrote:not suprised really as the driving standards in Lincs are of late abysmal due to the high number of Immigrants who cant drive for toffees!

yet we are all to suffer! :twisted:


the yokels are bad enough any way the banjos start at Bardney...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:08 pm
by jmaccyd
As someone who cycles on rural, National Speed limit roads, I have become conserned about not just the standard of driving, but the exess speed that is generally involved on this type of road. Of course these roads are not just shared by cyclists, but by horse riders, pedestrains and slow moving farm traffic.


I am not in favour of a blanket 'one-size-fits-all' speed limit like that proposed, and I am not familiar with the type of roads mentioned in this article, but am in favour of lower speed limits on rural roads. With the standard of driver ability/education in this country far to often 60MPH is taken as the speed to drive at regardless of the view ahead, or the type of road conditions that are prevailling at the time

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:16 pm
by PeteG
jmaccyd wrote:As someone who cycles on rural, National Speed limit roads, I have become conserned about not just the standard of driving, but the exess speed that is generally involved on this type of road. Of course these roads are not just shared by cyclists, but by horse riders, pedestrains and slow moving farm traffic.


I am not in favour of a blanket 'one-size-fits-all' speed limit like that proposed, and I am not familiar with the type of roads mentioned in this article, but am in favour of lower speed limits on rural roads. With the standard of driver ability/education in this country far to often 60MPH is taken as the speed to drive at regardless of the view ahead, or the type of road conditions that are prevailling at the time


So how far do you lower the limit? Wouldn't you rather educate all drivers in the art of stopping in the clear distance, rather than limiting speed, which could still be far too high?