Gill Taxis wrote:Well I don't know if it would cost 100 million pounds !
( Oh you mean by the time you pay the politicians wages then yes )
I can see that you priorities other issues above this, so be it.....that is your decision.
Being realistic, I suspect it would cost more than 100m to do this. Not just in actually training and providing instructors, but the cost to the treasury due to the loss of people paying road tax because they failed to pass a retest would be catastrophic. Any politician who backed a scheme would be likely to loose their seat I expect. I must dig out a piece Andrew Howard, former head of the AA motoring trust (now the IAM motoring trust) did on this, it outlined in detail the problem of retesting and was reasonably well thought out with some figures produced by the DSA.
Gill Taxis wrote:So you don't think road safety is priority ?
So you don't think that by educating people in the use of probably the most dangerous thing apart from "firing a gun direct at a person" is not priority ? OK/.....Let the fools drive around....un-educated in the skills available to them.....Let them believe 35 is OK to to do in a 30mph area......let the man that has restricted sight and can not see much drive on our roads......Why should we let them ? cos they have driven years and years..thats right ( let them fall into a system of habit )/....Get every one tested...the government has room to improve road safety and YES the funds as well. It Will never cost 100m pounds to enforce it will actually give instructors and examiners more work and RAISE THE STANDARDS ON BRITISH ROADS.
There aren't enough instructors and examiners to do this. It has already been researched by many as to the feasibility of providing compulsory retesting, it is not a new idea and is not straight forward. I believe this 100m that's being quoted is actually a drop in the pond compared to the real cost.
I suspect if this came in, approx 1/4 of people would fail a retest first time round (maybe thats an exaggeration). Thats, approx what 10m people off the roads. 10m people not paying road tax, or car insurance. A portion of them would still drive anyway, but there wouldn't be enough police to cope with catching them. 10m people who couldn't get to work in the same way and would probably lose their jobs.
The figures aren't accurate and maybe exaggerated, but the cost to society would be huge. Its not as simple as just saying retest everyone. I would love it! would make my day infinitely easier and a more of a joy but in reality it 's more likely I suspect that we'll be visited by aliens.
Gill Taxis wrote:So hold on...lets get down to basics here ! are you saying road safety is out of the question ? And is all drivers qualified enough to to be safe on the roads ?
Nobody is saying road safety is out of the question. What is being said is that there are ways and means of going about it, which have to be a compromise to achieving reduction in accident rates, in the right demographics without killing off a large section of the economy, putting people out of work etc.
Lets face it, if this was a real proposal, I would love to see the estimate from the treasury as to how much our tax's would have to go up to support it and as someone who believes I pay far too much tax already and have seriously considered dropping the UK for somewhere much more tax friendly and taking my skills elsewhere I would not support a tax hike.
Gill Taxis wrote:100million....LOL...
Give instructors the right to re-assess the ability of a driver ,,,simply book an appointment and they will assess the pupil at the cost of the driver.
THIS IS A LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION
If you can not drive a car correct you can KILL other road users.
It is a dangerous activity in the hands of an un-trained or undereducated individual.
Whats wrong with you lot ? This is our lives at risk and our kids and generations to be....
GET the road standards raised now....Stop been silly.
Steve
I don't think ADI's are the right people to be doing the assessment, otherwise they would be assessing L test to start with. There is also huge variation in the standards of ADI's, they have a 6 point grading system. How do we choose which ADI's should do it?
There is nothing wrong with us lot, just some of us have been working on this for the best part of 10 years and have seen and heard the arguments many times and looked and re-looked at reasons and feasibility into doing particular things.
Lastly, can we mind language please? I don't really want to sit having to edit posts, this is a family site you know