Car Wars

[Roadcraft]

Driving, and advanced driving in particular...shouldn't be a set of rules cast in stone...it should be flexible for the circumstances..IMHO..

Which is what the System gives you?

are you asking me....? or telling me?

[crr003]

Driving, and advanced driving in particular...shouldn't be a set of rules cast in stone...it should be flexible for the circumstances..IMHO..

Which is what the System gives you?

are you asking me....? or telling me?

Asking! That's what the "?" means.

My point being that where there should not be rules cast in stone ("always pull-push, never BGOL etc"), I'm thinking there is an underlying system which deals with the overall drive.

[TripleS]

Driving, and advanced driving in particular...shouldn't be a set of rules cast in stone...it should be flexible for the circumstances..IMHO..

Which is what the System gives you?

are you asking me....? or telling me?

Asking! That's what the "?" means.

My point being that where there should not be rules cast in stone ("always pull-push, never BGOL etc"), I'm thinking there is an underlying system which deals with the overall drive.

...a system that enables the individual driver to achieve a high quality result in his overall driving performance, avoiding the - you must always do this and you must never do that - mentality, particularly in relation to minor details that do not really affect safety.

S1 was quite reassuring in his references to his own (and seemingly his colleagues') quite flexible attitude with regard to handling of the steering wheel. I appreciated that - especially at this difficult time!

Best wishes all,
Dave.

[JamesH]

It's true for most skills that you have to be able to understand and complete the activity very rigidly and to the letter before you gain sufficient expertise to start cutting corners - you know when and where you can do so without loss of quality.

[JamesH]

Oh, and if you want to pass most exams you have to do things the way the examiner wants to see them done.

In my area (medicine) examiners at all levels want to see you do things that you would never rarely do in everyday practice but want to see that you're capable of "doing things properly". Part of that is just the way things have always been, but it's also checking that you actually have the skills in the first place and that your day to day 'sloppyness' isn't actually inability.

In most cases it's worth jumping through the hoops and to get the qualifications.

[crr003]

...a system that enables the individual driver to achieve a high quality result in his overall driving performance, avoiding the - you must always do this and you must never do that - mentality, particularly in relation to minor details that do not really affect safety.

S1 was quite reassuring in his references to his own (and seemingly his colleagues') quite flexible attitude with regard to handling of the steering wheel. I appreciated that - especially at this difficult time!

Dave - you'll get over it!
A little story. After passing IAM I thought I was the dog's danglies of driving. So I thought I'd do RoADA. Oh dear. Several things to change/improve/practice. After a few drives I was passed to another observer for a check drive before the test. After the drive his main criticisms were - I had both hands off the steering wheel while the engine was running(during shut down) and he couldn't read the numbers on the gear knob during some of my gear changes.

Picky or what? It's just the way some people are. (I'm not complaining - I quite like excessive detail )

[Roadcraft]

Driving, and advanced driving in particular...shouldn't be a set of rules cast in stone...it should be flexible for the circumstances..IMHO..

Which is what the System gives you?

are you asking me....? or telling me?

Asking! That's what the "?" means.

We'll have to disagree on the finer points of grammar then.... ie: 'which' and ''what' in the same sentence.....remove the sentence being a question and instead it becomes a statement...


Besides that....I agree with you crr003 about the flexiblity issues....

I've had quite a bit of contact with HATOs recently crr003...some interesting stuff....one way or another...

[crr003]

We'll have to disagree on the finer points of grammar then.... ie: 'which' and ''what' in the same sentence.....remove the sentence being a question and instead it becomes a statement...

Well, I wus an enguneer, so spelling and grammar is lost on me!

I've had quite a bit of contact with HATOs recently crr003...some interesting stuff....one way or another...

I'm sure! But have you done any yet?

[Roadcraft]

'done any' meaning knocked any off for offences. ?

No not yet...and i'm not in a hurry to do so....

[crr003]

'done any' meaning knocked any off for offences. ?

No not yet...and i'm not in a hurry to do so....

Yes - in that sense

[TripleS]

'done any' meaning knocked any off for offences. ?

No not yet...and i'm not in a hurry to do so....

Favouritism!!

Best wishes all,
Dave.