Angus wrote:Lies, damned lies and statistics.
Angus wrote:Am I alone in thinking that it's quite hard to be killed in a car these days? Incidents that people walk away from now with no more than bruising could have been fatal 40 years ago.
Angus wrote:Do statistics exist that only show collisions by type, speed and injury that can be compared over the years, taking into account number of vehicles and miles driven?
Angus wrote:My other fear is that this will be used as amunition by the speed camera/ traffic calming/lower limits brigade.
ROG wrote:As those out there now will not voluntarily commit to improve then the ONLY thing left is enforcement.
StressedDave wrote:As for the other figures, they look like they're plateaued to me.
ROG wrote:They state that all has been reasonably done with car & road design.
ROG wrote:This is why the DSA/DfT are doing their current UK consultation thing.
They state that all has been reasonably done with car & road design.
The only thing left to get these figures down is to improve the driver.
There are proposals to improve the new drivers of the future but how do you improve those that are out there now
As those out there now will not voluntarily commit to improve then the ONLY thing left is enforcement.
- unless someone knows of a reasonable alternative to reduce these figures...................
ROG wrote:There are proposals to improve the new drivers of the future but how do you improve those that are out there now
As those out there now will not voluntarily commit to improve then the ONLY thing left is enforcement.
- unless someone knows of a reasonable alternative to reduce these figures...................
zadocbrown wrote:ROG wrote:There are proposals to improve the new drivers of the future but how do you improve those that are out there now
As those out there now will not voluntarily commit to improve then the ONLY thing left is enforcement.
- unless someone knows of a reasonable alternative to reduce these figures...................
Re-testing at least every 10 years. Its the only logical thing to do.
It would also allow for a grading system, which could be taken into account for insurance purposes, which would be a good incentive for people to improve.
vonhosen wrote:ROG wrote:This is why the DSA/DfT are doing their current UK consultation thing.
They state that all has been reasonably done with car & road design.
The only thing left to get these figures down is to improve the driver.
There are proposals to improve the new drivers of the future but how do you improve those that are out there now
As those out there now will not voluntarily commit to improve then the ONLY thing left is enforcement.
- unless someone knows of a reasonable alternative to reduce these figures...................
Well the changes that are being proposed for driver training increase responsibility for the driver whilst the changes proposed for vehicles decrease responsibility for the driver.
ROG wrote:zadocbrown wrote:Re-testing at least every 10 years. Its the only logical thing to do.
It would also allow for a grading system, which could be taken into account for insurance purposes, which would be a good incentive for people to improve.
The above 2 suggestions you make were proposed at the consultation meeting by most trainers etc
Angus wrote:Lies, damned lies and statistics.
zadocbrown wrote:Where else today would you be allowed to carry out an activity involving substantial risk of death, both to one's self and to innocent bystanders, on the strength of having passed a test 20 years ago (when standards were different) and had zero training or assessment since?!!!!!
MGF wrote:zadocbrown wrote:Where else today would you be allowed to carry out an activity involving substantial risk of death, both to one's self and to innocent bystanders, on the strength of having passed a test 20 years ago (when standards were different) and had zero training or assessment since?!!!!!
Flying a plane?
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