jbsportstech wrote:I wondered what thoughts where on this use of blue lights.
Witnessed a unmarked bmw 5 series touring on 50mph limit dual track. I was in the right hand lane approaching trafficlight when I observed the vehicle approaching from behind. I was the only person who reacted to it b4 he was on my tail typical lack of observation. Anyway I moved over to the inside lane and allowed him to pass without reducing speed or direction. So he approaches the light and there is a seperate right hand turn lane with a ghost island as a buffer between the two traffic flows.
So the bmw drives straight onto the ghost island giving no indication of whether he needs to turn right or proceed straight on. He sat suprisingly in on the ghost island no indication given with lights and siren while both drivers must of been waiting for a cule which way he may want to go. Then he moves right up the tail of the car in the right hand trun lane and begins honking his horn which in turn switched the siren tone several times. Still know signal he then forces the car to jump a red light and then swerved rather back into the dual track to continue straight on.
Just strick me as badly planned and an indication would of helped. Also we have already discussed that jumping red light for blue light vehicles and general advice was don't the driver should switch some equipment of and hang back.
vonhosen wrote:jbsportstech wrote:I wondered what thoughts where on this use of blue lights.
Witnessed a unmarked bmw 5 series touring on 50mph limit dual track. I was in the right hand lane approaching trafficlight when I observed the vehicle approaching from behind. I was the only person who reacted to it b4 he was on my tail typical lack of observation. Anyway I moved over to the inside lane and allowed him to pass without reducing speed or direction. So he approaches the light and there is a seperate right hand turn lane with a ghost island as a buffer between the two traffic flows.
So the bmw drives straight onto the ghost island giving no indication of whether he needs to turn right or proceed straight on. He sat suprisingly in on the ghost island no indication given with lights and siren while both drivers must of been waiting for a cule which way he may want to go. Then he moves right up the tail of the car in the right hand trun lane and begins honking his horn which in turn switched the siren tone several times. Still know signal he then forces the car to jump a red light and then swerved rather back into the dual track to continue straight on.
Just strick me as badly planned and an indication would of helped. Also we have already discussed that jumping red light for blue light vehicles and general advice was don't the driver should switch some equipment of and hang back.
Sound like he wanted to go straight on ,hence no signal.
Also the rotation through the various sounds (Wail, yelp, two tone etc) is done on the horn & the horn will also sound as you cycle through them to the off position.
jbsportstech wrote:vonhosen wrote:jbsportstech wrote:I wondered what thoughts where on this use of blue lights.
Witnessed a unmarked bmw 5 series touring on 50mph limit dual track. I was in the right hand lane approaching trafficlight when I observed the vehicle approaching from behind. I was the only person who reacted to it b4 he was on my tail typical lack of observation. Anyway I moved over to the inside lane and allowed him to pass without reducing speed or direction. So he approaches the light and there is a seperate right hand turn lane with a ghost island as a buffer between the two traffic flows.
So the bmw drives straight onto the ghost island giving no indication of whether he needs to turn right or proceed straight on. He sat suprisingly in on the ghost island no indication given with lights and siren while both drivers must of been waiting for a cule which way he may want to go. Then he moves right up the tail of the car in the right hand trun lane and begins honking his horn which in turn switched the siren tone several times. Still know signal he then forces the car to jump a red light and then swerved rather back into the dual track to continue straight on.
Just strick me as badly planned and an indication would of helped. Also we have already discussed that jumping red light for blue light vehicles and general advice was don't the driver should switch some equipment of and hang back.
Sound like he wanted to go straight on ,hence no signal.
Also the rotation through the various sounds (Wail, yelp, two tone etc) is done on the horn & the horn will also sound as you cycle through them to the off position.
Yes but why drive straight between onto the ghost island and then stop at the pavent gives to indication to where you want when your positioning is bang slap in teh middle.
jbsportstech wrote: As he sat there in the middle neither vehicle new where he wanted to go. Then when he shot up behind the car in the right hand turn lane and forced him to jump a red, agajin I thought this was a no-no and I wouldnt of budged quoting the met and devon and cornwall policeas advising the blue light vehicles should not force vehicles to controvene a red light of mount a kerb.
jbsportstech wrote:Its just seems he was unecessasrily delayed by his lack of any clues as to his intended course.
The guidelines I have read about not be forced through a red light state the blue light vehicle should turn off its equipment like siren. Although there was no physical force by moving to someones tail and cyclling through the siren tones by pressing the horn I would view that as intimdating someone to contorvene the red ligh, he has the excemption not the car driver plus its a cameraed set of lights.
jbsportstech wrote:I wouldnt of budged quoting the met and devon and cornwall policeas advising the blue light vehicles should not force vehicles to controvene a red light of mount a kerb.
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