Daughters Accident
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My daughter was involved in an accident on Tuesday evening at about 10.10pm. She has been accused of going through red traffic lights. She was hit on the N/S rear just behind the passenger door (Mini Cooper S) And spun 180 degrees, ending up on the pavement outside a Pub.
She was very shocked at the time of the accident and her recollection of events is a bit sketchy. The other driver is adamant that she went through on red, and has witnesses to say so. My daughter did not speak to any of the witnesses, and they did not hang around for long. The other driver did not want the Police involved, as he said he did not want her to get into trouble. He then said, "I would move your car otherwise the police will be interested if they pass by and find it in that position, or words to that effect. She said that he was calm and quite nice to her. But his manner changed when my wife and I arrived. They had exchanged names and addresses but not insurance companies. Whilst I looked at the damage to both vehicles, my wife asked for some details. He was relucant to give her any names of witnesses, indeed he did not have addresses, only names and mobile phone numbers. Whilst she was recording these on her phone he became impatient and told her to get a move on. He said, "I'm as blind as a bat and I can do it quicker than that", which was not the best thing to say to my wife.
He said his car was not driveable, but the only visible damage was to the front N/S of the bumper, which would obviously haave to be replaced. After about 10 minutes he left, and my wife waited for the recovery truck as our daughters rear N/S wheel had been hit and was slightly out of line. I waited with her for a while, and in that time the owner of the pub came out and spoke to us. He told us that the other driver had come into the bar and asked for paper to record details, and that my daughter had said that she had gone through red lights. To this my daughter said that she had not admitted to anything. The bar owner said that his CCTV might possibly show something but we thought it dubtfull ,as it was pointing at the car park opposite. He said that we were quite welcome to view it if we wished, and if he could be of any help to phone him.
My daughter said that she wanted to report the accident to the Police, so I took her to the local Police Station. It was not neccesary to report the accident as ther were no injuries, but the Police just confimed the other drivers car was legal, and that was that. Yesterday I decided to phone the bar owner and find out more about the angle of the CCTV and if it would be of any help, but as before we decided that it probably wouln't. Whilst I was on the phone the bar owner told me that the other driver had been back to the bar and found another witness, this a full twelve hours after the accident. We are now beginning to think that he is dragging up witnesses from wherever he can. It also seems strange that he knows where one of the witnesses works, Even though he is not local. He lives in Margate.
The insurance company think that it will be a 50/50 as she is not admitting liability, but it is early days yet.
I have copied the junction off Google Earth. My daughter was travelling from right to left. The other driver was presumably travelling S-N, or S-E. The pub is the building in the bottom left hand corner.
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Nigel ADI
IAM trainee observer
She was very shocked at the time of the accident and her recollection of events is a bit sketchy. The other driver is adamant that she went through on red, and has witnesses to say so. My daughter did not speak to any of the witnesses, and they did not hang around for long. The other driver did not want the Police involved, as he said he did not want her to get into trouble. He then said, "I would move your car otherwise the police will be interested if they pass by and find it in that position, or words to that effect. She said that he was calm and quite nice to her. But his manner changed when my wife and I arrived. They had exchanged names and addresses but not insurance companies. Whilst I looked at the damage to both vehicles, my wife asked for some details. He was relucant to give her any names of witnesses, indeed he did not have addresses, only names and mobile phone numbers. Whilst she was recording these on her phone he became impatient and told her to get a move on. He said, "I'm as blind as a bat and I can do it quicker than that", which was not the best thing to say to my wife.
He said his car was not driveable, but the only visible damage was to the front N/S of the bumper, which would obviously haave to be replaced. After about 10 minutes he left, and my wife waited for the recovery truck as our daughters rear N/S wheel had been hit and was slightly out of line. I waited with her for a while, and in that time the owner of the pub came out and spoke to us. He told us that the other driver had come into the bar and asked for paper to record details, and that my daughter had said that she had gone through red lights. To this my daughter said that she had not admitted to anything. The bar owner said that his CCTV might possibly show something but we thought it dubtfull ,as it was pointing at the car park opposite. He said that we were quite welcome to view it if we wished, and if he could be of any help to phone him.
My daughter said that she wanted to report the accident to the Police, so I took her to the local Police Station. It was not neccesary to report the accident as ther were no injuries, but the Police just confimed the other drivers car was legal, and that was that. Yesterday I decided to phone the bar owner and find out more about the angle of the CCTV and if it would be of any help, but as before we decided that it probably wouln't. Whilst I was on the phone the bar owner told me that the other driver had been back to the bar and found another witness, this a full twelve hours after the accident. We are now beginning to think that he is dragging up witnesses from wherever he can. It also seems strange that he knows where one of the witnesses works, Even though he is not local. He lives in Margate.
The insurance company think that it will be a 50/50 as she is not admitting liability, but it is early days yet.
I have copied the junction off Google Earth. My daughter was travelling from right to left. The other driver was presumably travelling S-N, or S-E. The pub is the building in the bottom left hand corner.
[img]http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq144/fungus51/PennHill.jpg[/img]
Nigel ADI
IAM trainee observer