Nigel wrote:What does defensive and advanced driving mean to you
Nigel wrote:What does defensive and advanced driving mean to you
Nigel wrote:What does defensive and advanced driving mean to you
richie349 wrote:Nigel wrote:What does defensive and advanced driving mean to you
I would have thought advanced driving incorporates defensive driving (or should do) whereas the opposite isn't necessarily true.
I've seen people drive who can barely select an appropriate gear, cut corners and have no concept of MSPSL or IPSGA. However, for whatever reason, they're never had an accident. It's reasonable to surmise that they are keeping out of trouble and therefore driving defensively to some extent. I certainly wouldn't call them advanced though!
richie349 wrote:Nigel wrote:What does defensive and advanced driving mean to you
I would have thought advanced driving incorporates defensive driving (or should do) whereas the opposite isn't necessarily true.
I've seen people drive who can barely select an appropriate gear, cut corners and have no concept of MSPSL or IPSGA. However, for whatever reason, they're never had an accident. It's reasonable to surmise that they are keeping out of trouble and therefore driving defensively to some extent. I certainly wouldn't call them advanced though!
richie349 wrote:Nigel wrote:What does defensive and advanced driving mean to you
I would have thought advanced driving incorporates defensive driving (or should do) whereas the opposite isn't necessarily true.
jcochrane wrote:I'm sure we will all have our own ideas on this one. I know my definitions will not be accepted by all.
My interpretation of defensive driving is a style or form of driving that is learnt to reduce the risks in driving. It can be taken to various levels e.g. IAM pass, F1RST, Masters pass/distinction, RoADA bronze, silver, gold, police rapid response or police advanced etc.
What defines Advanced Driving, for me, is Defensive Driving at any of the above levels but with the addition that the individual has the desire to extend his/her knowledge, understanding, skills in driving beyond merely defensive. It is to do with an approach to driving.
In my mind an advanced police driver is likely to be very high up on defensive driving but without the extra, mentioned above they are not an advanced driver in my eyes. By contrast someone with a pass at IAM or RoADA who has the extra is an advanced driver in my book.
So as I define it there are drivers at many levels that can rightly call themselves advanced drivers.
gannet wrote:jcochrane wrote:I'm sure we will all have our own ideas on this one. I know my definitions will not be accepted by all.
My interpretation of defensive driving is a style or form of driving that is learnt to reduce the risks in driving. It can be taken to various levels e.g. IAM pass, F1RST, Masters pass/distinction, RoADA bronze, silver, gold, police rapid response or police advanced etc.
What defines Advanced Driving, for me, is Defensive Driving at any of the above levels but with the addition that the individual has the desire to extend his/her knowledge, understanding, skills in driving beyond merely defensive. It is to do with an approach to driving.
In my mind an advanced police driver is likely to be very high up on defensive driving but without the extra, mentioned above they are not an advanced driver in my eyes. By contrast someone with a pass at IAM or RoADA who has the extra is an advanced driver in my book.
So as I define it there are drivers at many levels that can rightly call themselves advanced drivers.
I would go along with this
I've never really liked either term though. When I first heard the term 'defensive driving' I thought it meant the opposite to what it does, Ie that it was some way towards being aggressive. Advanced implies that you think you know better than everyone else, when that is far from the truth. We never stop learning - which makes it all part of the fun and drive. That said I have failed to think of a better word
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