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Horses and 'No Entry'

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:54 pm
by martine
So is it legal for mounted horses to turn right here...

http://goo.gl/maps/kbasA

I saw 2 do it last week.

Or, in other words, what types of road users do 'No Entry' signs apply to? (I spotted cyclists are allowed to here)

Re: Horses and 'No Entry'

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:38 pm
by kwaka jack
According to page 17 of know your road signs no entry applies to any vehicular traffic and the defintion of a vehicle occording to the app on my phone is "a conveyance that transports people or objects. So yes I would say no entry signs apply to horses as well as cyclists.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 191955.pdf

Jackson

Re: Horses and 'No Entry'

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:43 pm
by kwaka jack
Although I've just had another look at your google picture and it says execpt cyclists. How can that be justified :?: :?: :?:

Re: Horses and 'No Entry'

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:26 pm
by martine
kwaka jack wrote:Although I've just had another look at your google picture and it says execpt cyclists. How can that be justified :?: :?: :?:

The exception is I think because it was being used as a rat-run to cut a corner off between 2 main roads. the right turn goes down a narrow lane - I guess the thinking is cyclists aren't much of a nuisance and it also keeps them safer and away from the busy main roads.

Re: Horses and 'No Entry'

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:58 pm
by kwaka jack
I'm not sure which would be worse...riding down a main road or down a one way road in to the path of oncoming drivers not expecting to see them there.

Re: Horses and 'No Entry'

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:39 am
by 125isfine.
I think the horse would be allowed to turn down there.
I have found two definitions, 1. Motor Vehicle.
The term 'motor vehicle' is defined in section 185(1) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and section 136(1) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 as "a mechanically propelled vehicle, intended or adapted for use on roads".
2. Vehicle.
A wheeled conveyance adapted or intended for the carriage of goods or people.
Neither of which applies to a horse ( unless it is pulling a cart ).

Re: Horses and 'No Entry'

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:50 pm
by Silk
125isfine. wrote:I think the horse would be allowed to turn down there.
I have found two definitions, 1. Motor Vehicle.
The term 'motor vehicle' is defined in section 185(1) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and section 136(1) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 as "a mechanically propelled vehicle, intended or adapted for use on roads".
2. Vehicle.
A wheeled conveyance adapted or intended for the carriage of goods or people.
Neither of which applies to a horse ( unless it is pulling a cart ).


Most laws don't apply to people who own horses. They go around as if they own the place - in a lot of cases, they actually do. :wink:

Re: Horses and 'No Entry'

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:25 pm
by 125isfine.
Silk wrote:
125isfine. wrote:I think the horse would be allowed to turn down there.
I have found two definitions, 1. Motor Vehicle.
The term 'motor vehicle' is defined in section 185(1) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and section 136(1) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 as "a mechanically propelled vehicle, intended or adapted for use on roads".
2. Vehicle.
A wheeled conveyance adapted or intended for the carriage of goods or people.
Neither of which applies to a horse ( unless it is pulling a cart ).


Most laws don't apply to people who own horses. They go around as if they own the place - in a lot of cases, they actually do. :wink:

Blast, I forgot about that, profuse apologies :mrgreen:

Re: Horses and 'No Entry'

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:29 pm
by superplum
Well, I'll ask then: Is the road a Bridleway?
:lol: :lol: