TheInsanity1234 wrote:To be honest, I think we've reached the lowest possible number of KSI's without completely banning cars from the road altogether.
This does mean everyone runs around screaming because we've killed a few more people than intended in the last few months, but if we were to plot a line graph, then you might find that the graph is tending towards a limit, and consequently won't go much lower.
martine wrote:It's not directly explainable by the economy continuing to recover apparently but it could be a statistical blip of course - although the trend has been up for several quarters running.
martine wrote:Officially announced today the UK's road Killed and Seriously Injured stats are up for the year-ending Sept '14.
http://fleetworld.co.uk/news/2015/Feb/Road-deaths-rise-for-first-time-in-30-years/0434018342
It's not directly explainable by the economy continuing to recover apparently but it could be a statistical blip of course - although the trend has been up for several quarters running.
Predictably BRAKE have called for more, lower speed limits...if the medicine doesn't work then make the medicine stronger I guess:
Brake is calling on all political parties to make three, key general election manifesto commitments to get casualties falling again and enable everyone to get around safely, sustainably and actively:
- Change the default urban speed limit to 20mph to protect people on foot and bike, and allow everyone to walk and cycle without fear.
- Introduce graduated driver licensing, to allow new drivers to build skills and experience gradually while exposed to less danger.
- Introduce a zero-tolerance drink drive limit of 20mg per 100ml of blood, to stamp out the menace of drink driving once and for all.
Personally I would support 2 of their 3 proposals and vehemently challenge the 3rd - I'm sure you can guess which.
michael769 wrote:martine wrote:It's not directly explainable by the economy continuing to recover apparently but it could be a statistical blip of course - although the trend has been up for several quarters running.
I think it is still too early to conclude that KSIs are up, I'd want to see 24 months of consistent rises before I call that one.
The main reason I take this view is that we had 2 years of exceptional drops in the KSI figures - it may be that those drops were statistical blips and we are now regressing back to the long term trend which hopefully remains on a downwards trajectory.
discov8 wrote:Personally I think cyclists should be obliged to participate in training, pass a test before being allowed on the road, the bike to have an ID plate and have insurance.
The list of idiotic actions I've seen cyclists perform is endless. In ratio to car drivers, if drivers acted the same there would be carnage on the roads.
This is definitely a European problem, after spending 9 years in Italy and 4 in Germany I've seen the same stupid and dangerous antics; Berlin was definitely the worst!
martine wrote:michael769 wrote:martine wrote:It's not directly explainable by the economy continuing to recover apparently but it could be a statistical blip of course - although the trend has been up for several quarters running.
I think it is still too early to conclude that KSIs are up, I'd want to see 24 months of consistent rises before I call that one.
The main reason I take this view is that we had 2 years of exceptional drops in the KSI figures - it may be that those drops were statistical blips and we are now regressing back to the long term trend which hopefully remains on a downwards trajectory.
Any statisticians here? Are 4 quarters of increases in KSIs significant, statistically speaking?
Ralge wrote:waremark wrote:Ralge wrote:I believe it is the case that 20 limits worked well in London despite a lot of non-compliance, no doubt, and, as a result, they are bound to proliferate outside of the capital.
What information do you have on that? I find 20's on through routes in London random confusing and maddening. This is mainly due to inappropriate implementation. I am entirely happy with 20's in narrow residential streets.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/do ... london.pdf
TheInsanity1234 wrote:To be honest, I think we've reached the lowest possible number of KSI's without completely banning cars from the road altogether.
This does mean everyone runs around screaming because we've killed a few more people than intended in the last few months, but if we were to plot a line graph, then you might find that the graph is tending towards a limit, and consequently won't go much lower.
Horse wrote:The UK is one of the few (IIRC) countries to be ahead (ie below) the predicted curve.
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