jont wrote:Most drivers are spatially lazy - they would rather sit where they are, even if they have to change speed, than maintain speed but have to change position (it's highlighted if you use cruise control a lot). Where do you draw the line between lazy and deliberate hogging?
martine wrote:Personally I think the majority of MLHs know it's wrong but are selfish enough not to care.
Garrison wrote:Personally, I like the discipline of the German society. I was once with a German colleague in Canary Wharf and we just stood there at the traffic light outside One Canada Square. There was no car come at all for over a minute while waiting for the green man to turn green !!!
akirk wrote:Garrison wrote:Personally, I like the discipline of the German society. I was once with a German colleague in Canary Wharf and we just stood there at the traffic light outside One Canada Square. There was no car come at all for over a minute while waiting for the green man to turn green !!!
there are also other ways of describing that - sensible and efficient are not amongst them! (and I am part German!) - The problem with that approach is the belief that only in order / discipline / structure do things work, it depersonalises society - the British system is based on flexibility, intelligence, and common sense - only ruined when greed and selfishness come into the equation - better to remove those than create a sterile society
Alasdair
jonquirk wrote:akirk wrote:Garrison wrote:Personally, I like the discipline of the German society. I was once with a German colleague in Canary Wharf and we just stood there at the traffic light outside One Canada Square. There was no car come at all for over a minute while waiting for the green man to turn green !!!
there are also other ways of describing that - sensible and efficient are not amongst them! (and I am part German!) - The problem with that approach is the belief that only in order / discipline / structure do things work, it depersonalises society - the British system is based on flexibility, intelligence, and common sense - only ruined when greed and selfishness come into the equation - better to remove those than create a sterile society
Alasdair
I have heard of this behaviour before; the explanation proffered was that the signals were obeyed lest a child see them being jumped and think it was ok to do so as well, without necessarily having the skill to judge whether it was safe, or not.
Garrison wrote:I was once with a German colleague in Canary Wharf and we just stood there
at the traffic light outside One Canada Square. There was no car come at all for over a minute while waiting for the green man to turn green !!!
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:Garrison wrote:I was once with a German colleague in Canary Wharf and we just stood there
at the traffic light outside One Canada Square. There was no car come at all for over a minute while waiting for the green man to turn green !!!
That'll be because in many European countries, including Germany, you can get fined for crossing the road while the pedestrian crossing is on red.
According to some other hearsay I found - either €5 or €10 in Germany, €45 in Holland, and so on... Instils discipline
And of course, the same applies in the U.S.
Garrison wrote:martine wrote:
Personally, I like the discipline of the German society. I was once with a German colleague in Canary Wharf and we just stood there at the traffic light outside One Canada Square. There was no car come at all for over a minute while waiting for the green man to turn green !!!
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