Oscarmark wrote:To put this into context, both IAM and ROSPA have a corporate national standard, but it would be naive to think that a test completed in Somerset by one examiner will be identical to the same test in Hertfirdshire by another. The marking guidelines are the same but there will be differences.
I gave a talk to an IAM Group last week where an associate asked, "Can every driver obtain a F1rst?" Of course they can't, just as not every driver can pass the IAM test.
I probably do 2 x ROSPA tests for every 1 IAM, so I guess the proportions are relevant. The point I am trying to make, from my perspective, it is 'easier' for an Examiner to award a Gold pass because of the way the guidelines are constructed. I don't think it is 'healthy' to make direct comparisons. Each test stands on it's own merits. I find it difficult to understand how a F1rst register driver is not up to Gold at ROSPA.
At this talk the other evening a member came up to me in the break and asked if I had passed the Masters. I have not, he then said by definition then I 'out qualify you'. It is my Class 1 Advanced qualification that provides me with the ability to perform the role of examiner. He was under the impression that a Masters was equivalent of my Class 1. I have heard senior examiners say that a Masters is like a police qualification, but within the speed limits... That is a fair analogy. When I did my Police Advanced Course it was over 6 weeks with check tests along the way culminating in a 90 minute 2 part test including a pursuit with FULL commentary throughout. Then there were 3 yearly assessments.
I am sorry if this 'muddies' the waters for members, but anyone who passes either ROSPA or IAM at any level deserves praise, it is not something you have to do (there are some exceptions) but by passing you have shown that your driving ability is 'head and shoulder' above that of the ambient public.
playtent wrote:How many observed drives is usual prior to success at First level?
I thought I read Fengpo was told to put in after 2 hours?
What is the scale at between 2-10hrs?
Cheers
Kimosabe wrote:
I passed the IAM test at F1rst level, first time and I didn't take the RoSPA test because it was mostly repetition, partly going to be as irritating, due to there being a link between the operational needs even of a Police Standard driver and civilian driving and because if there's a Gold, i'm going to get it and nothing less.
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