Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:This isn't a tennis forum, Alasdair
The point is that it appears there is no good evidence that advanced driver training produces safer drivers or lowers casualty rates. Horse's credentials in the field of transport research far outweigh mine, I was just clearing up the misunderstanding that seemed to exist. You may feel you're a better driver, subjectively, and safer. There's some contrasting evidence, however, that adding skills leads to a misplaced feeling of confidence and riskier behaviour as a result. YMMV.
nope - 20mph is too low for tennis
if we actually wind back to the start of the training discussion, one of my early points was that conceptually to train people is better than to place a blanket ban on anything above 20mph in a residential area...
while I accept that it can be difficult to analyse the success of training, a number of people have come back with the assertation that training doesn't work - which is really a slightly lazy response... my point above was that training clearly does work as a concept - and it clearly works in driving as seen by the learner test and people learning / being trained to drive...
we can already see that this can develop and change over time - and in fact the introduction of the Hazard test is one attempt to tackle some of these issues - but there are other options...
If the learner test had more on residential area driving and the need to vary speed according to situation / hazards, that is not a particularly advanced technique and could easily sit at the learner level... then back it up with a change in law so that if you are found guilty of any hazardous / dangerous driving in a residential area you lose your licence permanently - it wouldn't be impossible to change attitudes... and then you leave the law as it is, drive as needed to the situation...
the issue at the moment is that for a lot of drivers points / fines are not a deterrant - yet for young drivers today, I have certainly noticed a big change around here, especially with the threat of losing your licence with 6 points in the first 2 years - so there are lots of alternative methods - which are about changing driver habit - that is training...
to say that AD training doesn't work is a) nonsence because there are many on here who clearly show that it changes people and b) irrelevant because this debate doesn't require AD level training to achieve what is needed
Alasdair