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Portablilty of RoSPA pass

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:09 pm
by BigJim
Here's a strange situation. I know that most young guys(I'm 19) Gain membership of the IAM through their skill for life package and then go on to take the RoSPA test.

However, I've passed the RoSPA test but never been anywhere near IAM.

Could I join IAM on the strength of my RoSPA silver, or would I need to take their test, which is essentially identical?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:19 pm
by James
You will need to take the test. The only exemption is afforded to qualified police drivers. The test will not be identical, there will be subtle differences in areas. The IAM will have their own "style" as will all the other organisations.

Re: Portablilty of RoSPA pass

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:57 pm
by Darren
BigJim wrote:Here's a strange situation. I know that most young guys(I'm 19) Gain membership of the IAM through their skill for life package and then go on to take the RoSPA test.

However, I've passed the RoSPA test but never been anywhere near IAM.

Could I join IAM on the strength of my RoSPA silver, or would I need to take their test, which is essentially identical?


Technically you need to take their test. However, can I be biased? Don't bother back tracking for IAM, it's arguable that you get better membership benefits if your a member here than from the IAM anyway. Keep that up, and stick with your RoSPA Silver, try and improve it to Gold and then go for HPC.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:23 pm
by GS
James what are the subtal differences between RoSPA and IAM tests ?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:25 pm
by Rick
I thought ADI's and DSA LGV register holders were able to get the badge too. And i suppose M/C insructors. Maybe i'm wrong, i'm sure Nigel will know.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:51 pm
by GS
There are other exemptions to IAM membership other than a police qualification.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:26 pm
by James
Don't know all the exemptions for IAM, guess they will be afforded ot those that already have some sort of qualification other than a civilian instituional one like Rospa e.t.c.

I dont know the differences between Rospa and IAM, although I am led to believe that Rospa is to a higher standard.

Portability of Rospa test pass

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:05 pm
by MikeB
Having been a Roadar (Rospa) Observer/member since 1965 (old codger soon?) I would say that a Rospa silver is somewhere near to an I.A.M. pass although some who I have known to pass the I.A.M. test where, I think, nearer to Roadar bronze level.

To get a Gold pass in Roadar one would have to drive consistently and systematically to a good advanced level, with no highs and lows- as good at the end as at the start.

It used to be said that the examiner would be happy to potentially lend his car to a Gold driver.

Keep with Roadar 'cos you get a written report every three years after your re-test, could get a Gold if you really try and as a goal save your pennies and do H.P.C. I waited 25 years after first reading about H.P.C. - wish I'd done it sooner.

You will be tested by 'a cop' - acronyn for Anticipation,Concentration, Observation & Plannig - its what you need to drive well.

Cheers,

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:35 pm
by crr003
GS wrote:There are other exemptions to IAM membership other than a police qualification.

But ADI is not one of them. Otherwise we have to refund a few!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:48 pm
by Rick
I'm sure my work colleague has claimed his IAM with his DSA LGV vol reg, i can't see why that would be better than an ADI qual for the car. I did say i wasn't sure though. Seems odd. What level of police driver qual is required to get an exemption?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:50 pm
by James
Rick wrote:I'm sure my work colleague has claimed his IAM with his DSA LGV vol reg, i can't see why that would be better than an ADI qual for the car. I did say i wasn't sure though. Seems odd. What level of police driver qual is required to get an exemption?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:46 pm
by MGF
I am currently training for membership with both organisations and if anything would say there is more of a difference between individual observers than there is between the two organisations.

What is attractive about Roada is that you are graded so can try and improve and also you have to be re-tested every three years. This fits more with the ethos of advanced driving that we are all still learning.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:08 pm
by ScoobyChris
I went with RoSPA mainly because of cost and also because it was graded so I would be rewarded for a good drive, rather than just getting a pass/fail :D

Very happy I did so now :lol:

Chris

Re: Portability of Rospa test pass

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:21 pm
by rodericksdad
MikeB wrote:
To get a Gold pass in Roadar one would have to drive consistently and systematically to a good advanced level, with no highs and lows- as good at the end as at the start.
Cheers,

off on a tangent slightly,i have put the above into practice every day on the vehicle that i drive at work (large bus),and to do it all day at the end of the shift(8-9hrs)i am mentally wrecked,but it does seem to be getting better as time goes by,and i have the added pleasure of knowing that tommorow i can try and put right any daft mistakes that i made today,or better it even more or at leas keep trying if you know what i mean,

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:26 pm
by keats52
MGF wrote:I am currently training for membership with both organisations and if anything would say there is more of a difference between individual observers than there is between the two organisations.

What is attractive about Roada is that you are graded so can try and improve and also you have to be re-tested every three years. This fits more with the ethos of advanced driving that we are all still learning.


Is there really any advantage to being a member of both groups?