sulligogs wrote:Additionally, when exiting a major road into a minor road there is a single broken line, but when exiting a roundabout there is no line at all. Doesn't this defy logic?
waremark wrote:Sulligogs, you are showing that you are a very unusual driver by noticing these details. Well done. You have the makings of a good advanced driver in due course.
7db wrote:
HTH
7db wrote:Hello.
There are different markings to denote different meanings.
The standard give way double lines (1003) has a strict meaning:- you mustn't cross it so as to endanger a driver or passenger of another vehicle or to cause another vehicle to change course or speed to avoid an accident. There are some subtleties about when used in a narrowing road (eg traffic calming), but it's used when meeting a major road. These are outlined in TSRGD Reg 25.
The roundabout give way (1003.1 and 1003.3 - mini) is different (but apparently similar) -- it demands that you give way at or just beyond it to traffic already on the roundabout. 1003.3 must appear with the roundabout upright (611.1) and means give way to traffic to the right / already in the junction.
The difference is that one references a minor to major change (the major traffic always has priority) -- the other is a series of equal roads which yield to traffic on the junction. Traffic on the other roads does not have a right of way unless it is in the junction first.
Additionally - and this is genuinely confusing, but highly practical - where the layout of a mini roundabout is particularly "straight" for one approach, the regular give way might be used to emphasise the need to yield at the junction. A give way upright and double lines are used in that instance.
The single line that you cross when entering a minor road helps you understand that you are moving from one road to another and must yield to traffic (and pedestrians!) already in that road -- notice the similarity here with the roundabout. As you join a new road (minor, circulating one on a RAB) you yield where there is conflict with the established path of another vehicle.
HTH
Octy_Ross wrote:I'd never paid that much attention to all the paint, damit I'll have to start now
Further to Marks point above, Sulligogs, if you're not too far away, why not mosey on down to the Andover advanced driving taster day on the 10th Oct ? Panda Chris, sorry, Scooby Chris is arranging it, so it should be a good day.
Ross.
sulligogs wrote:I think Andover is still quite a bit out of my depth right now. I've been saying to myself to get up early on a Sunday morning and get on the A45 to join the M42 for a couple of junctions and see how I feel. I've only ever driven once at 60mph on a single carriageway that permitted it with my driving instructor and I loved it. Still, I was too nervous to realise the signs and my driving instructor had to prompt me to slow down and indicate to get off safely.
7db wrote:In what sense is it complicated? When you cross a dotted white line you have to beware. A double one doubly so.
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