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Discussion on Advanced and Defensive Driving and training for LGV, HGV, PCV, Minibus's etc type vehicles.

Postby skipdriver » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:44 pm


Firstly hi everyone. I'm new to the forum I'm just looking for some advice plz. I passed my hgv about 8mths ago and after trying to find someone who wood take me on with no exp I found a job at a local skip firm to which I'm a little worried that some of the other drivers in the company have told me that most of the vehicles don't have a valid mot cert they don't have a o plate licence in the window either but the boss has told me they are waiting for the new ones to come... But I'm thinking what bout the insurance ermm if the above is true is the driver liable for any of these. I have sin a few little dodgy things in the company like one of the wagons is used on the road and it don't have a tax disc in the window. But a few ppl like mates etc have told me different stuff to who wood get in trouble so fort I wood ask on here. Cheers for your comments
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Postby Andy » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:30 pm


Well done for having the nouse to ask these tough questions.

It's dead simple. When you get behind the wheel of any vehicle and ultimately decide to turn the key, you take responsibility for its legaity and safety and the police will hold YOU responsible if you are stopped.
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Postby martine » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:57 pm


Easy for me to say but why not make an anonymous call to the police or VOSA...if you're not happy doing that, get yourself another job and then make the call.

Bit OTT may be but you could be saving someone's life.
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Postby skipdriver » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:38 pm


Thanks for the comments I have made a call to vosa and asked the same questions and they told me that I wasn't liable for tax,mot or o plate but I would be responsible for any defects should I report them and still drive the vehicle which I knew anyway. I am just asking as I am still abit dubious as I know other hgv drivers and they are adamant I would be at fault
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Postby ROG » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:46 am


The OPERATOR of the vehicle is FULLY responsible for things out of your control such as insurance, operators licence, MOT etc - THAT IS WRITTEN IN LAW

As a driver I would note and defect anything you think is amiss in writing

If YOU think the vehicle is not roadworthy (bald tyres, missing lights etc) then DO NOT take it out

You will find much more truck info on trucker sites such as http://www.trucknetuk.com - other sites are available
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Postby IVORTHE DRIVER » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:25 pm


Hi,

I am on holiday in Wales but thought I would just add to this post,

Important point...remember YOU ARE responsible for ANY faults on the vehicle if you get stopped regardless of the fact you may or may not have reported them, as a driver YOU check everything BEFORE you take that vehicle on the road, you dont like it the truck does not move

Ok back to my holiday now :D

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Postby martine » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:44 pm


IVORTHE DRIVER wrote:...Ivor (with holiday shorts on)

:shock: too much detail :wink:
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Postby skipdriver » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:25 pm


ROG wrote:The OPERATOR of the vehicle is FULLY responsible for things out of your control such as insurance, operators licence, MOT etc - THAT IS WRITTEN IN LAW

As a driver I would note and defect anything you think is amiss in writing

If YOU think the vehicle is not roadworthy (bald tyres, missing lights etc) then DO NOT take it out

You will find much more truck info on trucker sites such as http://www.trucknetuk.com - other sites are available


Sorry to sound dumb who is the operator 8)
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Postby ROG » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:12 pm


skipdriver wrote:Sorry to sound dumb who is the operator 8)

The operator is the owner of the vehicle


BTW - (off topic) how many hours have you got towards your driver CPC?
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Postby skipdriver » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:31 pm


ROG wrote:
skipdriver wrote:Sorry to sound dumb who is the operator 8)

The operator is the owner of the vehicle


BTW - (off topic) how many hours have you got towards your driver CPC?


Hi rog I've passed my cpc cause I had only just passed my test :D
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Postby ROG » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:00 am


skipdriver wrote:
ROG wrote:BTW - (off topic) how many hours have you got towards your driver CPC?


Hi rog I've passed my cpc cause I had only just passed my test :D

Are you saying that you did the initial dcpc modules 2 & 4 recently and now have 5 years in which to get the 35 hours of periodic dcpc?
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Postby skipdriver » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:17 pm


ROG wrote:
skipdriver wrote:
ROG wrote:BTW - (off topic) how many hours have you got towards your driver CPC?


Hi rog I've passed my cpc cause I had only just passed my test :D

Are you saying that you did the initial dcpc modules 2 & 4 recently and now have 5 years in which to get the 35 hours of periodic dcpc?


Hi rog yes mate and it was a bloody nitemare lol
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Postby ROG » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:21 am


What is your plan for getting those 35 hours?
Have you done any dcpc hours already?
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Postby skipdriver » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:18 am


ROG wrote:What is your plan for getting those 35 hours?
Have you done any dcpc hours already?

No not yet as I only just passed it all I haven't even fort about it lol. I've got 5 yrs to do them don't I mate?
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Postby ROG » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:38 am


skipdriver wrote:
ROG wrote:What is your plan for getting those 35 hours?
Have you done any dcpc hours already?

No not yet as I only just passed it all I haven't even fort about it lol. I've got 5 yrs to do them don't I mate?

Yep 5 years - should be an expiry date on your DQC which backs this up

suggestion - do a 7 hours dcpc course on driver regs and tachos - most are very good for relative newbies
Try and choose an approved dcpc course that is being run by someone who knows what they are taliking about such as a LGV training school - there are many out there who are not up to speed on the regs and spout off crap

The content of courses made up by individuals is not checked upon - seriously
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