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Hi All

What is the law surrounding providing advanced driver training to LGV and HGV drivers? I am aware to provide any form of paid instruction to a car or van driver, you need to be a registered ADI with the DVSA, but I'm keen to learn about LGVs. I'm meaning advanced tuition for full LGV/HGV licence owners, NOT teaching them to get their c or c+e category

Thanks
paul

The LGV register is voluntary, not mandatory like the car register.

Therefore you don't have to be an ADI to teach licence acquisition let alone advanced driving.
You just need to satisfy the minimum age/experience criteria to supervise LGV learners & no qualifying criteria for full LGV licence holders.

Thank you. When it comes to LGV advanced training what things are usually covered? Is it like with car advanced training, which has some coverage of the controls but much more on anticipation etc? Or being as though LGVs are much more complex, maybe it's a little different ?

The IAM Commercial advanced course is identical to the car advanced...just in a different vehicle with considerations to size, performance, use of gears - all the main things are the same (Observation, anticipation, System of Car Control, etc.

Are you intending to do this as a paid job ?

If yes then please research carefully as I do not think there is a call for it

I thought we agreed that the RTA banned any paid instruction by non-ADIs, regardless of context?

trashbat wrote:I thought we agreed that the RTA banned any paid instruction by non-ADIs, regardless of context?

That is not the case = 100%

The law is clear on who can and cannot get paid to do instruction for learners
Put in simple terms - cars and motorbike learners have strict rules - others do not

some can try and put their own spin on the laws but in the end it remains as above

ROG wrote:Are you intending to do this as a paid job ?

If yes then please research carefully as I do not think there is a call for it

I may do - in the future. But currently I am just interested, as there seems so much info out there, but nothing set in stone...

I am the LGV observer for our IAM group and after doing well over 25 over the years I can state that LGV drivers are very close to advanced drivers in their general manner of driving

To get a LGV driver to IAM test standard takes a couple of hours at most and that is mainly tweaking small bits or me being pedantic because I am bored with nothing to do

ROG wrote:

trashbat wrote:I thought we agreed that the RTA banned any paid instruction by non-ADIs, regardless of context?

That is not the case = 100%

The law is clear on who can and cannot get paid to do instruction for learners
Put in simple terms - cars and motorbike learners have strict rules - others do not

some can try and put their own spin on the laws but in the end it remains as above

My mistake, the relevant section applies to "motor car".

ROG wrote:I am the LGV observer for our IAM group and after doing well over 25 over the years I can state that LGV drivers are very close to advanced drivers in their general manner of driving

To get a LGV driver to IAM test standard takes a couple of hours at most and that is mainly tweaking small bits or me being pedantic because I am bored with nothing to do

I have been told LGV drivers, almost without exception are pretty much at an advanced level anyway, which when you consider the size of the vehicles they drive, is quite reassuring..

paul adams wrote:

ROG wrote:I am the LGV observer for our IAM group and after doing well over 25 over the years I can state that LGV drivers are very close to advanced drivers in their general manner of driving

To get a LGV driver to IAM test standard takes a couple of hours at most and that is mainly tweaking small bits or me being pedantic because I am bored with nothing to do

I have been told LGV drivers, almost without exception are pretty much at an advanced level anyway, which when you consider the size of the vehicles they drive, is quite reassuring..

/cynic. How many car drivers who do high miles think they drive at an "advanced" level? The regular carnage on the A14 has me far from convinced about HGV drivers...

jont wrote:

paul adams wrote:

ROG wrote:I am the LGV observer for our IAM group and after doing well over 25 over the years I can state that LGV drivers are very close to advanced drivers in their general manner of driving

To get a LGV driver to IAM test standard takes a couple of hours at most and that is mainly tweaking small bits or me being pedantic because I am bored with nothing to do

I have been told LGV drivers, almost without exception are pretty much at an advanced level anyway, which when you consider the size of the vehicles they drive, is quite reassuring..

/cynic. How many car drivers who do high miles think they drive at an "advanced" level? The regular carnage on the A14 has me far from convinced about HGV drivers...

My main issue with SOME LGV drivers, is that they drive too close to slow moving car drivers...Surely they can't brake as fast as a car, or be as stable under braking...

Generally LGV are much better than car drivers...!!