Gareth wrote:What is your entrance speed for the initial bend, compared with your speeds through each of the bends?
Have you tried starting a bit slower allowing positive acceleration into the first bend, lifting slightly as the second bend becomes visible, then a second lot of positive acceleration into and through the second bend?
Horse wrote:I'm not going into the sequence particularly 'fast'
Horse wrote:it's a 60 limit, BTW. Not that I would try at that speed
Horse wrote:[it] is a 'short sharp' left into a sharp but opening long right. There is no 'slack' between seeing the left and needing to be taking action.
Gareth wrote:Horse wrote:I'm not going into the sequence particularly 'fast'
I think it was more the relative speeds I was asking about.
Gareth wrote:Horse wrote:it's a 60 limit, BTW. Not that I would try at that speed
I should nip over and try it out - it's not far away, and anyway I remember the road from when I lived in Bracknell and worked at ICL - because it's easier to discuss something from recent knowledge.
Gareth wrote:Horse wrote:[it] is a 'short sharp' left into a sharp but opening long right. There is no 'slack' between seeing the left and needing to be taking action.
There may be no 'slack' but it might work better if you put some in. If you're still accelerating as you pass from the left to the right, you may not be able to accelerate enough in the right to make it comfortable.
jcochrane wrote:...Contributers in that thread include respected experts such as "StressedDave" who are well worth listening to.
Astraist wrote:Slower entry speed and perhaps a different cornering line where possible might give better "cornering stiffness". A decisive turn-in motion when going into the S-bend can make the car "take a set" faster, making it easier to change direction quickly afterwards. And I believe that is the main problem. The input should be as quick as possible that can still generate a smooth output.
Unless the steering inputs required are very large, fixed-input is very good when you need to steer and than quickly change direction. How high do you keep your eyes through the turn? A further point of focus might smoothen out your inputs.
7db wrote:Alternative thought -- if the junction is nice and open and clear, how about a faster approach speed and trail-braking through the left -- treating it as a curved braking zone for the following right? Vision appears not to be especially limiting* -- more comfort and grip.
jcochrane wrote:With reference to "atraists" post above and to avoid further duplication, other views on cornering have been fully discussed in the "Cornering - Balance" thread. Contributers in that thread include respected experts such as "StressedDave" who are well worth listening to.
StressedDave wrote:Ignoring the difficulty of analysing a bend based solely on Google Streetview and some dodgy writing
StressedDave wrote: There are always going to be some double bends where there is no 'straight' where you can transfer weight from left back to centre before transferring it right. In general, I find there are three ways of dealing with the situation:
1. Accept that it's not going to feel nice and just drive the bends as safely and smoothly as you can.
2. Try and find a way of engineering a 'straight'
Horse wrote:StressedDave wrote:2. Try and find a way of engineering a 'straight'
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