Jackie Stewart and Bends

[jcochrane]

Copied from another forum but thought it might be of interest here.
Some of us here are already familiar with his ideas.
The clipping point being the centre line when applied to the road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSiK_VarK8

[jameslb101]

Thanks for sharing that John. Interesting to see how he explains it.

[faboka]

Thanks for the link

[gannet]

great video

[ppjs]

It is worth seeing the whole film "Weekend of a Champion." Made about 40 years ago, it shows GP cars with far fewer electronic gizmos, so that you see a very direct connection between driver and machine. What Jackie Stewart displays is immense control which produces smooth progress; it looks (and is) less frenetic, but it is very quick.

[f3racer]

Interesting video, but Jackie Stewart is seriously full of crap nowadays!

[martine]

...but Jackie Stewart is seriously full of crap nowadays!

Go on...

[f3racer]

This sort of remark amongst others:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19969175

He's just very full of the "it was tougher in my day" mentality. Today's F1 drivers might think it was easier back then when you had to handle a car with "just" 400Bhp...


And here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19834309

Where he feels it necessary to point out that his success rate was very high. We're all well aware of what he did, but it was a long time ago. Move on!

[Mr Cholmondeley-Warner]

That story seems to have a headline that isn't necessarily a true summation of JYS's comments. I have to say as a casual viewer of F1 it does seem to me to be dominated by car design, and has been for many years. Control oscillates between teams as design changes, and the drivers, while all talented, can't do much about it if there's another car manufacturer who has a better car. Jenson Button's one World Championship win would seem to be a classic example of that. I'm not saying Jenson isn't a great driver, but for one year he was made into a virtually unbeatable one by a happy marriage with a dominant car, and has since struggled to produce anything like that form. There are many other examples in a similar vein.

As for your second example, well, hasn't MS built his career on "incidents" such as the ones described?

[martine]

Sorry f3racer but I don't read anything from Jackie Stewart to disagree with. In those 2 examples he's not saying 'it was tougher in my day' at all.

[jcochrane]

Sorry f3racer but I don't read anything from Jackie Stewart to disagree with. In those 2 examples he's not saying 'it was tougher in my day' at all.

+1

[daz6215]

Doesn't appear to be working!

[f3racer]

Sorry f3racer but I don't read anything from Jackie Stewart to disagree with. In those 2 examples he's not saying 'it was tougher in my day' at all.

+1

No problem, and no need to apologise. A forum would be a dull place if we all had the same opinions!

[jcochrane]

Sorry f3racer but I don't read anything from Jackie Stewart to disagree with. In those 2 examples he's not saying 'it was tougher in my day' at all.

+1

No problem, and no need to apologise. A forum would be a dull place if we all had the same opinions!

Although I did not feel your examples came across to me and others in the same way as for you. I can understand where you are coming from. From his era though and earlier there were some wonderfully gifted drivers. JIm Clark particularly seems to be universally accepted as one of the truly gifted drivers, not just in motor sport but road driving as well and was also a member of HPC.

[Horse]

This sort of remark amongst others:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19969175

He's just very full of the "it was tougher in my day" mentality. Today's F1 drivers might think it was easier back then when you had to handle a car with "just" 400Bhp...

Given the death rate amongst drivers back then, I don't think he was wrong.

Why do you think power = difficult?