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Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:57 pm
by Gareth
I think of it like this:-

It's OK to beat yourself up; just don't take it to heart!

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:29 pm
by waremark
Gareth wrote:I think of it like this:-

It's OK to beat yourself up; just don't take it to heart!

And remember to praise yourself often when you do things well.

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:11 pm
by Horse
waremark wrote: Do I think this new-agey stuff works for me? No


Where/what is the cut-off between what is acceptable to you and what is unacceptable? :?: :?

Is it just down to how it's described, or by whom? e.g. Why the 'new-agey stuff' tag? If something is explained from a scientific basis, does that make a difference?

Or do you stick with cross-ply tyres and drum brakes, because these 'new-agey' radials and discs are obviously no good :lol: :shock: 8) :wink:

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:45 pm
by zadocbrown
Horse wrote:
waremark wrote: Do I think this new-agey stuff works for me? No


Where/what is the cut-off between what is acceptable to you and what is unacceptable? :?: :?

Is it just down to how it's described, or by whom? e.g. Why the 'new-agey stuff' tag? If something is explained from a scientific basis, does that make a difference?

Or do you stick with cross-ply tyres and drum brakes, because these 'new-agey' radials and discs are obviously no good :lol: :shock: 8) :wink:


I think waremark's car might be quite fun on cross-plys! :twisted:

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:53 pm
by Gareth
Horse wrote:
waremark wrote: Do I think this new-agey stuff works for me? No

Where/what is the cut-off between what is acceptable to you and what is unacceptable?

Different people respond well in differing degrees to different styles of coaching. Is that a problem for you? :P


Edited to add: just to avoid my post being almost completely worthless, the thing I liked about Don's coaching was the way he sidled stuff into your brain without you being aware of it.

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:35 pm
by martine
Gareth wrote:...the thing I liked about Don's coaching was the way he sidled stuff into your brain without you being aware of it.

That's just plain evil...indoctrinating his clearly disturbed thoughts of car control without your conscious agreement...should be banned.

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:31 pm
by Horse
Gareth wrote:
Horse wrote:
waremark wrote: Do I think this new-agey stuff works for me? No

Where/what is the cut-off between what is acceptable to you and what is unacceptable?

Different people respond well in differing degrees to different styles of coaching. Is that a problem for you? :P


Edited to add: just to avoid my post being almost completely worthless, the thing I liked about Don's coaching was the way he sidled stuff into your brain without you being aware of it.


Not a problem for me :)

A-n-d- -y-o-u-r- c-l-a-r-i-f-i-c-a-ti-o-n- a-n-s-w-e-r-s m-y q-u-e-s-t-i-o-n: y-o-u-'l-l a-c-c-e-p-t 'n-e-w-a-g-e-y' w-h-e-n y-o-u d-o-n-'-t r-e-a-l-i-s-e i-t-'-s b-e-i-n-g d-o-n-e t-o y-o-u :)

Edit: apologies to Gareth for my confusion, so that bit 'crossed out'.

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:03 pm
by Mr Cholmondeley-Warner
... except that the original statement was Mark's, so Gareth's view on his attitude to new-agey coaching is only relevant as it applies to Gareth, and it isn't a clarification of Mark's position :)

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:49 pm
by Horse
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:... except that the original statement was Mark's, so Gareth's view on his attitude to new-agey coaching is only relevant as it applies to Gareth, and it isn't a clarification of Mark's position :)


We've made friends by PM, I was just heading in now to amend the post ;)

Which reminds me, I owe you a PM too 8)

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:54 pm
by Horse
zadocbrown wrote: I think waremark's car might be quite fun on cross-plys! :twisted:


I think there's a lot to be said for old-tech equipment. Let's be honest, if high-spec radials let go beyond the limit on-road during 'enthusiastic' driving, then the outcome is likely to happen far more quickly and violently than would on cross-plys . . . :)

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:10 pm
by martine
Horse wrote:I think there's a lot to be said for old-tech equipment. Let's be honest, if high-spec radials let go beyond the limit on-road during 'enthusiastic' driving, then the outcome is likely to happen far more quickly and violently than would on cross-plys . . . :)

Isn't that what this is all about?

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:30 pm
by muggins
G'day gentlemen (?) I have got the 19th of this month booked with Don and I have been reading this post with some " oh blooming" mathematics are involved ( at the begging of post) and then "new age" comes into it, well for me "new age" was a long long time ago!!
So to cut a long story short I am going to hopefully learn and retain something and also ENJOY myself, and never mind the tyre wear!!!!!!!

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:29 pm
by waremark
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:... except that the original statement was Mark's, so Gareth's view on his attitude to new-agey coaching is only relevant as it applies to Gareth, and it isn't a clarification of Mark's position :)

If I don't know it is being done to me I don't suppose I have any choice but to accept it. But there is a danger that I go away thinking that I haven't learned anything and that my very expensive day has been rather bad value. Perhaps I am not perceptive enough to realise even afterwards how much I did learn.

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:09 pm
by faboka
muggins wrote:G'day gentlemen (?) I have got the 19th of this month booked with Don and I have been reading this post with some " oh blooming" mathematics are involved ( at the begging of post) and then "new age" comes into it, well for me "new age" was a long long time ago!!
So to cut a long story short I am going to hopefully learn and retain something and also ENJOY myself, and never mind the tyre wear!!!!!!!


I'll be there on the 20th :)

Re: Don Palmer - Car Control day

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:57 pm
by kfae8959
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:... except that the original statement was Mark's, so Gareth's view on his attitude to new-agey coaching is...


I thought Mark was quoting James?

David