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Postby oxtondriver » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:34 pm


I ordered my copy yesterday 22nd and it arrived today 23rd. :D
I noticed it's got 92 more pages than the last edition.
Will be interesting to see what they have added.
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Postby jameslb101 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:39 pm


michael769 wrote:at my age things like memory become tenuous :wink:

Is that better or worse than having an "underdeveloped brain" like you claimed under-25s do? :roll:
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Postby Mr Cholmondeley-Warner » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:50 pm


No problems with over-confidence for you, then, James! :D
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Postby jameslb101 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:08 pm


Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:No problems with over-confidence for you, then, James! :D

If I was over-confident about my driving, I probably wouldn't be here, talking to you :P
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Postby Horse » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:56 am


roganjosh wrote:The Font is definitely thicker that's for sure :wink: Pre ordered.


But still not the font of all knowledge? :)

Never mind PP/fixed input/rotational/predictive, it'll be interesting to see whether the bike edition finally acknowledges that bikes need to be steered . . .
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Postby devonutopia » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:41 pm


oxtondriver wrote:I ordered my copy yesterday 22nd and it arrived today 23rd. :D
I noticed it's got 92 more pages than the last edition.
Will be interesting to see what they have added.


From what I have heard, most of the additional stuff is for the biker side.
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Postby Horse » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:51 pm


StressedDave wrote:Albeit in the opposite direction to the corner... :twisted:


Doesn't matter what or how, the point is that it should be included!

However, from a technical PoV . . . however it's done it's simply 'steering'. We could, of course, go into the mc option of direct steering at low speed.
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Postby Horse » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:37 am


Horse wrote:
StressedDave wrote:Albeit in the opposite direction to the corner... :twisted:


Doesn't matter what or how, the point is that it should be included!

However, from a technical PoV . . . however it's done it's simply 'steering'. We could, of course, go into the mc option of direct steering at low speed.


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http://www.roadcraft.co.uk/uploads/pdf/ ... apter7.pdf

Counter-steering

At speeds above walking pace, steering input to the left will make the bike
lean to the right. This is known as counter-steering. Everyone countersteers
but the steering input required is minimal and often unnoticed.
If you understand the principle, however, it increases your ability to
manoeuvre accurately while cornering.

As the motorcycle leans, several forces are at work.
• Inertia tends to make the motorcycle keep travelling in a straight line –
this feels as though you are being pushed outwards.
• Other forces tend to move a bike travelling along a curved path towards
the centre of the circle around which it’s travelling.
When the forces tending to push the machine outwards equal the forces
tending to pull it inwards, the bike will be balanced.

So, to start a turn and get the bike to lean, you must apply pressure on
one side of the handlebars. To turn right, push on the right handlebar, and
to turn left, push on the left handlebar. It is important to apply the pressure
smoothly. When you reach the correct angle of lean for the bend, remove
all pressure from the handlebars and the steering will self-align. Maintain a
positive throttle to balance the effect of cornering forces.
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Postby Zebedee » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:07 am


There's an interesting 3-star review by 'darryl' of the new Roadcraft on Amazon:
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/review/011708187 ... =1&sort=rd

Roadcraft is "written for emergency response drivers who are assumed to be below average drivers", according to our darryl. That's the only review of the new Roadcraft on Amazon at the moment. An interesting first review!
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Postby MGF » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:16 pm


About half of them probably are, before training at least.
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