Custom24 wrote:GJD wrote:Both as bad as each other.
I agree with you that this is one of those times where the best thing to do is nothing, as borne out by the subsequent events in the video.
However, I don't agree with you that they were both as bad as each other, and I hope that the police don't take that view either. That driver needs not to be on the road for a while and to reflect on his attitude.
GJD wrote:Custom24 wrote:GJD wrote:Both as bad as each other.
I agree with you that this is one of those times where the best thing to do is nothing, as borne out by the subsequent events in the video.
However, I don't agree with you that they were both as bad as each other, and I hope that the police don't take that view either. That driver needs not to be on the road for a while and to reflect on his attitude.
The whole thing culminated in some punching. I imagine that was probably the most serious offence actually committed in legal terms, which is presumably what the police will be concerned with.
Nobody would view what the driver did as OK, but some people might view the cyclist's decision to engage with the driver as OK, or at least understandable. I feel very strongly that showing any tolerance for the cyclist's response is hugely counter-productive - completely incompatible with the idea of promoting a co-operative attitude amongst all road users. In my view both of them can be held up as excellent examples of utterly unacceptable behaviour.
GJD wrote:The whole thing culminated in some punching. I imagine that was probably the most serious offence actually committed in legal terms, which is presumably what the police will be concerned with.
jont wrote:But what are cyclists supposed to do?
GJD wrote:As I said - keep calm and carry on. Like all the cyclists in that clip who didn't back up to talk to the driver and didn't end up in a fight.
Custom24 wrote:GJD wrote:The whole thing culminated in some punching. I imagine that was probably the most serious offence actually committed in legal terms, which is presumably what the police will be concerned with.
I'd imagine they will also be interested to some extent in the driver driving over the foot, and perhaps even in the initial offence of encroaching on the ASL.
As for the punching, I've not watched the video again, but I don't remember it showing the cyclist punching, just using some choice language on the second encounter. I doubt the police will be interested in the language.
7db wrote:It wasn't the driver who did the punching.
GJD wrote:7db wrote:It wasn't the driver who did the punching.
I saw some suggestion in the other place that it was the passenger rather than the driver but I don't know if it was conclusively clear from the video. Perhaps there were three arses.
TripleS wrote:encouraging them to assemble at the front of the queue,
TripleS wrote:What's needed is the promotion of more tolerance and goodwill amongst the various road user groups, and I don't think sufficient is being done in that regard.
revian wrote: Would a protected Lane without spreading it across the road encourage a safer flow?
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