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Re: Road positioning, cyclist ahead

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:16 pm
by sussex2
Custom24 wrote:
TripleS wrote:But I still think cycles should be registered and taxed, and cyclists should have insurance, and an identifying number on their backs, so that wrongdoers can be tracked down and suitably punished - like would happen to me if I ever did anything wrong while dawdling about on the roads. :wink:


Does the wink icon at the end of that mean you are being sarcastic, or do you really think any of this?


I agree with the insurance!

Re: Road positioning, cyclist ahead

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:19 pm
by Custom24
sussex2 wrote:I agree with the insurance!


Tell me your story, or is this just theoretical?

Re: Road positioning, cyclist ahead

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:27 pm
by sussex2
Custom24 wrote:
sussex2 wrote:I agree with the insurance!


Tell me your story, or is this just theoretical?


I think anyone who takes to the road on wheels should have third party or public liability insurance.

Re: Road positioning, cyclist ahead

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:42 pm
by TripleS
Custom24 wrote:
TripleS wrote:But I still think cycles should be registered and taxed, and cyclists should have insurance, and an identifying number on their backs, so that wrongdoers can be tracked down and suitably punished - like would happen to me if I ever did anything wrong while dawdling about on the roads. :wink:


Does the wink icon at the end of that mean you are being sarcastic, or do you really think any of this?


Honest answer: No, I'm not being entirely serious about it, for the moment.

There are various reasons why cycling should be encouraged:

They don't consume finite energy resources.
There would be less atmospheric pollution of our environement.
Noise levels would be reduced.
They occupy less road space.
They do not require such a high quality road surface, not that we have much of that at present!
It would be better for the health of the nation, though not everybody would be able to participate and benefit.

....and I expect there are other reasons, but that's a start.

Having said that, I really would like the cycling community to cut out some of their self-righteous and tiresome behaviour, and stop behaving as if they have some sort of unchallengeable moral high ground relative to mechanically propelled road users. I appreciate that not all cyclists let the side down in this way, but it is clear that some do, whether they are commuters in the hectic conditions of travel in our towns and cities, or recreational cyclists out in the country in groups.

Let's have proper respect and consideration for each other, however we travel, otherwise one could start getting more serious about advocating cracking down on certain groups.

There you go. YMMV.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Re: Road positioning, cyclist ahead

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:11 pm
by Custom24
sussex2 wrote:
Custom24 wrote:
sussex2 wrote:I agree with the insurance!


Tell me your story, or is this just theoretical?


I think anyone who takes to the road on wheels should have third party or public liability insurance.


Theoretical, then.

Re: Road positioning, cyclist ahead

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:39 pm
by fungus
Custom24 wrote:
TripleS wrote:But I still think cycles should be registered and taxed, and cyclists should have insurance, and an identifying number on their backs, so that wrongdoers can be tracked down and suitably punished - like would happen to me if I ever did anything wrong while dawdling about on the roads. :wink:


Does the wink icon at the end of that mean you are being sarcastic, or do you really think any of this?


I do, having been on the receiving end of a reckless act by a teenage cyclist.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3010&p=59223&hilit=I%27ve+had+an+accident#p59223

Re: Road positioning, cyclist ahead

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:00 pm
by gannet
sussex2 wrote:
Custom24 wrote:
sussex2 wrote:I agree with the insurance!


Tell me your story, or is this just theoretical?


I think anyone who takes to the road on wheels should have third party or public liability insurance.

Join the CTC - such insurance comes as part of membership :D

As for the video of the idiots... you will always get them and not much will change their behaviour - doesn't excuse it though :roll:

The ASL boxes are designed/the idea behind them (as far as I'm led to believe...) is so that cyclists in the box are more visible to HGV's at the front of a queue - the cab's blind spot can be alarmingly big... Personally, I use several of these such boxes everyday on my commute and have never had any major problems with them :)

Re: Road positioning, cyclist ahead

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:37 pm
by Custom24
fungus wrote:
Custom24 wrote:
TripleS wrote:But I still think cycles should be registered and taxed, and cyclists should have insurance, and an identifying number on their backs, so that wrongdoers can be tracked down and suitably punished - like would happen to me if I ever did anything wrong while dawdling about on the roads. :wink:


Does the wink icon at the end of that mean you are being sarcastic, or do you really think any of this?


I do, having been on the receiving end of a reckless act by a teenage cyclist.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3010&p=59223&hilit=I%27ve+had+an+accident#p59223


Which bit(s) do you agree with?

Re: Road positioning, cyclist ahead

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:27 pm
by fungus
Custom24 wrote:Which bit(s) do you agree with?


Insurance, and identity plates for the bicycle.

Re: Road positioning, cyclist ahead

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:41 pm
by Ancient
You don't need insurance to claim against anyone in a public place. In any case most household insurances cover Third Party claims of the sort that might arise using a bicycle. The extra insurance required by the drivers of motor vehicles is specifically because the types and seriousness of damage typically done by motor vehicles exceeds those caused by cycles by orders of magnitude.

Registration has been examined and found to be economically unviable (i.e. it would cost signoificantly more than it could possibly raise and still remain proportionate to the risk posed by cycles) - and would cost even more when the health costs of discouraging cycle (as it would) use are added in.