sussex2 wrote:Personally I prefer Rospa as their tests need to be repeated in order to maintain the qualification. Ialso believe they set a higher standard.
martine wrote:why do you say ROSPA is a higher standard?
RoADAR test Guidlines wrote:Gold
This grade is recognised as the highest driving award available to the public.
michael769 wrote:Because RoADAR claim it to be the case, and have never been effectively challenged on their claim?RoADAR test Guidlines wrote:Gold
This grade is recognised as the highest driving award available to the public.
On a personal level, I feel the retests give a RoADAR membership greater credibility than IAM membership, having tutored folks who passed the IAM test many years ago I have some experience of how standards can drop...
martine wrote:sussex2 wrote:Personally I prefer Rospa as their tests need to be repeated in order to maintain the qualification. Ialso believe they set a higher standard.
Of course it's true about the mandatory 3 year retest but why do you say ROSPA is a higher standard?
Our IAM staff examiner also tests for ROSPA in the Bristol area and he suggests:
ROSPA Bronze ~ IAM fail
ROSPA Silver ~ IAM pass
ROSPA Gold ~ IAM F1rst
And that's without considering ROSPA Diploma or IAM Masters.
In the end all driving with constructive criticism and an open mind is beneficial regardless of the piece of paper you may or may not get as a result. That's why I like ADUK driving days - without exception they are attended by people who want to improve, share ideas, coach and receive coaching in an enjoyable and friendly atmosphere and no one get a 'qualification' at the end.
martine wrote:sussex2 wrote:Personally I prefer Rospa as their tests need to be repeated in order to maintain the qualification. Ialso believe they set a higher standard.
Of course it's true about the mandatory 3 year retest but why do you say ROSPA is a higher standard?
Our IAM staff examiner also tests for ROSPA in the Bristol area and he suggests:
ROSPA Bronze ~ IAM fail
ROSPA Silver ~ IAM pass
ROSPA Gold ~ IAM F1rst
And that's without considering ROSPA Diploma or IAM Masters.
In the end all driving with constructive criticism and an open mind is beneficial regardless of the piece of paper you may or may not get as a result. That's why I like ADUK driving days - without exception they are attended by people who want to improve, share ideas, coach and receive coaching in an enjoyable and friendly atmosphere and no one get a 'qualification' at the end.
Ralge wrote:Interesting view of a RoSPA Bronze as being equivalent, perhaps, to an IAM fail.
I have had no exposure to the IAM marking structure so can anyone explain what test elements would allow a low pass for RoSPA but a fail for IAM?
martine wrote:michael769 wrote:Because RoADAR claim it to be the case, and have never been effectively challenged on their claim?RoADAR test Guidlines wrote:Gold
This grade is recognised as the highest driving award available to the public.
Ohhh...I think they have...
"The IAM Masters programme is the ultimate recognition for a civilian driver or rider to attain".
http://www.iam.org.uk/drivers/motorists-courses/masters
michael769 wrote:martine wrote:why do you say ROSPA is a higher standard?
Because RoADAR claim it to be the case, and have never been effectively challenged on their claim?RoADAR test Guidlines wrote:Gold
This grade is recognised as the highest driving award available to the public.
http://www.roadar.org/drivers/info/car- ... e-2012.pdf
On a personal level, I feel the retests give a RoADAR membership greater credibility than IAM membership, having tutored folks who passed the IAM test many years ago I have some experience of how standards can drop, and the way the drop tends to be greater the longer it has been since they passed, when folks do not work towards maintaining and further improvement.
For folks who are not able to internalize the drive to maintain and improve the restests do provide an effective external drive.
StressedDave wrote: Personally, I have my doubts about DIAmond - it's marked against the DSA criteria, so the standard test is the same as Part II for an ADI and the Special Test is the same as the Cardington Special Assessment. . . . it's just that the standard you're being measured to is not the same as the IAM/RoADAR measure against.
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