true blue wrote:StressedDave wrote:There is no 'late apex' line around a right hand bend - the 'safety line' is around the outside of the bend. If you can't follow that line then your entry speed is too high. Simple as... Fixing it is a bugger though.
Well, that's encouraging - good to know that my inability to spot the late apex is because it's not there!
In my case I suspect the reason for my shoddy cornering on right handers is that I apply too much steering, too late, though I'm open to other suggestions. Not necessarily a function of too much speed as not enough time spent preparing for the corner, though I'm well aware that they are two sides of the same coin.
Oh I wouldn't rush to the conclusion that your cornering is shoddy, unless you are having some obvious problem with it, and you feel something really needs improving. If you were to take a smooth and reasonably civilised line through the bends, retaining a secure level of grip, and not risking conflict with oncoming traffic, you're doing OK. If you want to analyse it further and refine the process, all well and good, but that's a choice you are free to make.
I must confess I don't understand the point about there being no 'late apex' line around a RH bend. The bend itself might have a
fixed apex, which to me means the point at which the minimum radius occurs, but the line we follow when driving is usually going to be somewhat different from the physical line of the bend. Given that we have a range of options for the line we actually take, I don't see why we can't create a late apex on a RH bend, but it does seem to imply the need for a sudden additional steering input, and that might be detrimental to grip and stability.
Huh, after that bit of disharmony on the 'ESP topic, I think I shall retreat to something a little more pleasant.
Best wishes all,
Dave.