Rowley010 wrote:This brings me on to my next question then. If they are advanced, then why do they give minor or sometimes major faults on a driving test for not signalling if there's no benefit to another road user?
Your taught to ALWAYS signal at junctions and ALWAYS signal at roundabouts whether there is someone there or not. Yet if they've done advanced driving, they are being a bit hypocritical for giving faults to a leaner for not signalling IF there is no benefit to another person on the road.
Reason I'm asking this is because I recently passed my HGV test and got a minor fault for no signal....I knew exactly when the examiner meant, and I remember I observed all around me and decided a signal would have been no benefit to anyone else!
It depends on what you mean by 'advanced'.
One person's idea of advanced is not always the same as another's.
Some people use the term to describe someone who has passed their IAM, RoSPA or police test. There are other driving tests available such as the Diamond test and the Carding Special test which are not usually described as 'advanced' but are nevertheless tests which you have to drive to a high standard to pass. Possibly to a higher standard than either the IAM or RoSPA tests. (I speak as a current RoSPA examiner and ex-IAM examiner) Different organisations see things differently. I certainly do not remember having to ALWAYS indicate as you describe when I took DSA tests. Just because a different organisation wants to see slightly different things on their tests does not necessarily mean that they are wrong or 'less advanced' than another, they are just slightly different.
If 'advanced' means harder, then I would certainly rather take an IAM or RoSPA test than a Cardington test if I was looking for a high mark. To me the Cardington test would be harder, does this mean it is more advanced? I don't know.
I do not think that giving unnecessary indication in itself is wrong, unnecessary perhaps, but not wrong. However I do think that not indicating when it is or may be helpful is wrong. That's just my opinion.
I also think that when discussing different standards required for different driving tests, if the differences just come down to use of signals, they can't be THAT different.