EdgarF wrote:I grew up in Surrey. I learned to drive in Surrey. When I got my first job and could afford to buy a Ford Capri and then a TR7 (sorry!), I used to enjoy throwing them around the lovely NSL country roads in Surrey. Then I moved away. This week I had to go back to Surrey. I looked forward to driving on many of the roads that I used to enjoy in the past. But the NSL signs have been taken away, to be replaced by 40 mph speed limit signs and repeaters - everywhere! What has happened? Driving is no longer enjoyable in Surrey. Have you residents of Surrey elected the Greens or Liberal Democrats to be responsible for your roads? Can anyone enlighten us?
skodatezzer wrote:Don't get me started - I've got to live here Getting more and more difficult to find a decent bit of NSL to get associates out on. Latest one to go to 40 is Limpsfield to the top of Titsey Hill, after one fatal accident thereupon. There's one nasty bend but apart from that it's open and flowing with good sightlines. Lots of other similar cases all over the county. It's why we East Surrey-ites will have to depend on the kindness and commitment of others to organise ADUK driving days, and why so many of us will drive a long way to attend them
Horse wrote:skodatezzer wrote:Don't get me started - I've got to live here Getting more and more difficult to find a decent bit of NSL to get associates out on. Latest one to go to 40 is Limpsfield to the top of Titsey Hill, after one fatal accident thereupon. There's one nasty bend but apart from that it's open and flowing with good sightlines. Lots of other similar cases all over the county. It's why we East Surrey-ites will have to depend on the kindness and commitment of others to organise ADUK driving days, and why so many of us will drive a long way to attend them
In other words, sadly, the IAM test (and so training) is, perhaps ceasing to be relevant to most modern drivers.
Horse wrote:Also, think about the performance of vehicles now compared to your Capri and TR7 - they probably required far more effort to shovel around than modern equivalents.
akirk wrote:Horse wrote:skodatezzer wrote:Don't get me started - I've got to live here Getting more and more difficult to find a decent bit of NSL to get associates out on. Latest one to go to 40 is Limpsfield to the top of Titsey Hill, after one fatal accident thereupon. There's one nasty bend but apart from that it's open and flowing with good sightlines. Lots of other similar cases all over the county. It's why we East Surrey-ites will have to depend on the kindness and commitment of others to organise ADUK driving days, and why so many of us will drive a long way to attend them
In other words, sadly, the IAM test (and so training) is, perhaps ceasing to be relevant to most modern drivers.
No, it is more relevant - the more people there are on the road, the more important it is that people drive well... IAM and AD is not all about NSL
Alasdair
jont wrote:Horse wrote:Also, think about the performance of vehicles now compared to your Capri and TR7 - they probably required far more effort to shovel around than modern equivalents.
And they have better brakes and more grip. So we should be increasing speed limits to account for this
akirk wrote:Horse wrote:In other words, sadly, the IAM test (and so training) is, perhaps ceasing to be relevant to most modern drivers.
No, it is more relevant - the more people there are on the road, the more important it is that people drive well... IAM and AD is not all about NSL
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