RobC wrote:akirk wrote:RobC wrote:Hi Alisdair
My neighbour is a consultant brain surgeon. He was presumably an excellent brain surgeon before he became a comsultant but to become a consultant he sat up studying theory night after night for months.
Without passing the theory and passing his consultants exams he could not have become a consultant, if he hadn't passed the exams he would still be an excellent brain surgeon albeilt with a less knowledge and he could call himself a consultant .
Precisely
also - you can't say with empirical accuracy that he would have had less knowledge - passing an exam proves what you know on that day, it doesn't prove or imply that you knew less before starting...
Hi Alidair
I could ask him if I wanted empirical accuracy but I can guess what his answer would be. I cannot imagine that my neighbour sat up night after night for months studying to be a consultant brain surgeon and learned nothing other that what he had already known or should have known.
I am sure that there was lots he learned - I have no issue with learning theory, but if he learned it at that stage one assumes that he wasn't having to use that knowledge in the real job previously or he would already have known it - so what was the benefit in the learning...?
If we go back to your original proposition:
- PT2 is more advanced as you have to do a hard theory test
- IAM is less advanced because there is very little theory
I am still not sure you really understand it - theory is all very well, but of its own it doesn't constitute advanced tests / driving... yes, it is more advanced than the lower standard learner test, but there is far more in driving and that is where Advanced driving takes over from the standard test & PT2 - in showing that you can take the theory and actually use it...
it is a simple progression:
- standard learner test - basic theory / basic car control / basic putting it together
- PT2 - increasing the theory / making the pass mark higher
- Advanced Driving - a higher level of driving - knowing the theory inside out & able to put it into practice / higher levels of car control / observation / etc.
your initial concept is I think flawed - just because there is no separate theory test in AD doesn't make it a lower level - it is because it is a higher level that it is no longer useful to know it just theoretically - it has to be demonstrated...
Alasdair