Silk wrote: ... but there is also an element of how good they are at operating the controls and choosing a method that has an element of safety built in. With regards to steering, few people would argue that choosing a method that defaults to safety as well as being accurate and smooth is not a good idea.
Why do you consider Pull-Push to be the only steering method that...
defaults to safety as well as being accurate and smooth? Silk wrote: What we seem to have is a growing and very vocal sub-group who see[m] to have a problem with pull/push steering for reasons unknown. For me to be convinced it should be dropped, they have to come up with a better alternative. Dropping it because it's hard to teach or Jeremy Clarkson makes fun of it are not good enough reasons.
A couple of misconceptions there.
Firstly, us loud-mouthed-self-proclaimed-driving-"experts" don't have a problem with PP steering. I use it frequently, for turns at up to approx 25mph. For deviations of curve/bend at higher speed I use alternative techniques. What you need to understand is that we have a "problem" with anyone who insists that PP is the ONLY way to steer at all times.
Secondly, you suggest that...
they have to come up with a better alternative. This discussion is not about having "a" better alternative, a single different way of steering. No, it's about having a number of steering techniques in the toolbox so that the thinking driver, and I assume you agree that's what we're trying to produce, will have a choice of techniques and will be able to select the best one for the matter in hand. And, yes, I've heard all the arguments about PP is a tried and tested technique that is suitable for all occasions and all situations so why introduce additional techniques which aren't as good as PP. It's an argument that is both fatuous and blinkered, and thankfully the IAM appear to be on the point of agreeing with me.
Yes, I know, I'm a bit self opinionated. What I'm really striving for is the accolade of being labelled a... "loud mouthed self-proclaimed driving "expert", who's also a lefty liberal who just gives out certificates, not just for showing up, but for understanding the difference between inputs and outcomes. As you quite rightly pointed out earlier... although
I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, I'm afraid, on this occasion, I'm unable to recommend you for membership of the
Institute of Advanced Outcomes. But, please keep asking the questions and reading the replies and I'm sure that you will be successful at your next attempt.