revian wrote:I don't think anyone reasonably is local to me else I'd be asking for a 'look at my driving' for more focussed advice.
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Kimosabe wrote:I usually play 'no brakes' when driving my 4x4, because trying to stop it without a little nose dip at the end, is often impossible. But that doesn't fit well with 'making good progress', because doing this often causes me to hang back (crawling doesn't sit well with me unless i'm not impeding someone else behind), while using good timing to be at a safe following distance once the traffic starts moving again. Still, it is just a little game after all.
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:OK, to clarify, I may drive slightly differently with passengers in the car (depending on who they are), but the general principle applies. Get moving, don't hold people up, take opportunities if they arise, above all, keep the wheels moving. It's part of a philosophy now, and just "natural".
Oscarmark wrote:It is up to you how you drive in any set of circumstances ( so long as it is legal ) however of you want to pass the IAM or ROSPA Advanced Test, you need to demonstrate that drive up to the legal posted limit if traffic, weather and road conditions allow. I am afraid if you do not do that you will be unsuccessful. I had to fail a driver a few weeks ago who announced during "Commentary" whilst driving on M25... " I am comfortable at 60mph, so I am going to stay in this lane" It was a rare occasion when the M25 was flowing freely..... progress was hampered and we became 'boxed in' by Goods Vehicles with speed limiters fitted!
Good luck with your test in the summer!
sussex2 wrote:You should tell them of the old military maxim (drummed into me by an instructor) - 'Wider field of vision, clearer field of fire'.
Not allowing yourself to be boxed in is one of the prime requirements of safer driving.
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote: He's examining them, not tutoring them. He doesn't care, he just makes a note on his pad and alters the grade accordingly. This is why groups invite examiners to present to them on a regular basis, so they know what the examiner (and they're all different) wants to see.
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:That's what the test guidelines are for.
As much as you touchy-feely blokes would like it, I can't see any kind of discussion with examiners happening any time soon. Sure, you can ask why you got a particular grade, and the examiner will tell you. What you won't get is a discussion about why you thought you deserved something different. You're being marked by someone who is given the authority to mark you. End of ...
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:I'm sorry, I don't necessarily see a lengthy discussion
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote: what the candidate feels they scored, versus the examiner's opinion . . . but they are understood by most people.
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote: None of them is going to listen to a candidate saying "I'm comfortable at 60" and tucking into lane 1 between the HGVs, without a raised eyebrow and at least expecting some slightly more positive behaviour on the remainder of the DC / motorway section.
Oscarmark wrote:There is another document that you may be aware of called IAM - COMMON CONFUSIONS and can be viewed on the website. It provides corporate central guidance for Observing and Examining and was produced in consultation with Staff Examiners.
It covers areas like, Briefings / De-Briefs, 'straight lining bends' and overtaking speed clarification amongst many other regular confusions / misconceptions.
Horse wrote:It shouldn't take much longer than a reasonable debrief would any - presuming candidates get one?
[Ever since my IAM bike test (1988?), when there wasn't a debrief, I've wondered what 'thoughtful' against 'gears' meant . . . ]
horse wrote:So here's an example of how the discussion might go:
"Now, 'progress', how do you think you did in that?"
. . . "Well, not too bad, I was fairly brisk out of the lower speed limits and took all the overtaking opportunities available."
"What about on the motorway?"
. . . "Hmm . . . I sat in between some trucks, I didn't really need to go any faster."
"As you weren't keeping up to the speed limit although it was safe to do so, how do you think that should be marked?"
. . . "Oh, well, not good enough . . . ?"
Didn't take long, did it? Candidates fail themselves and know what to do differently. Win win.
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