jont wrote:http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/06/ford-introduces-limiting-mykey-for-worried-parents/
I picked this article up elsewhere. Some interesting comments about if parents don't trust their kids enough to need to give them a special key, why trust them with the car at all?
Thoughts? I can guess what TripleS will be saying about intrusive technology...
Jon
Possibly, although they may then get used to a false safety blanket effect when back in their modern car. And it doesn't need to be 1960s technology. I've got a 2000 year car with no ABS, no traction control, manual windows, unservo'd brakes and trust me, you feel pretty uninsulated when driving it... (although thinking about it, a lot of it probably is 1960s technology )fungus wrote:My car has ABS, but no traction controll or ESP etc. It would be nice to be able to disable the ABS and let pupils experience the difference between a car with ABS, and one without, because in most cases their first car will be an older model without any of these aids.
Maybe it would be agood idea if we taught driving in cars with 1960s technology, so that they experience a less insulated driving environment.
fungus wrote:I agree with Tripple S. Have the technology, but allow drivers the option to overide it... My car has ABS, but no traction controll or ESP etc. It would be nice to be able to disable the ABS and let pupils experience the difference between a car with ABS, and one without, because in most cases their first car will be an older model without any of these aids.
jbsportstech wrote:I caught snipped of a program on telly a while showing a irish learner and that said you can't go above 45mph after a period of some time afetr your test.
fungus wrote:I agree with Tripple S. Have the technology, but allow drivers the option to overide it.
This may be a good idea, but will it make teenagers any safer? Maybe when they drive a car with this technology, but I have my doubts.
What happens when the teenager buys their own car without these aids? They will still do what teenagers do.
My car has ABS, but no traction controll or ESP etc. It would be nice to be able to disable the ABS and let pupils experience the difference between a car with ABS, and one without, because in most cases their first car will be an older model without any of these aids.
Maybe it would be agood idea if we taught driving in cars with 1960s technology, so that they experience a less insulated driving environment.
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martine wrote:fungus wrote:I agree with Tripple S. Have the technology, but allow drivers the option to overide it... My car has ABS, but no traction controll or ESP etc. It would be nice to be able to disable the ABS and let pupils experience the difference between a car with ABS, and one without, because in most cases their first car will be an older model without any of these aids.
Actually I don't think people should be allowed to overide some things. You have a special case and I'd agree it would be sensible. Then again do you really want to be teaching skid control on the road? If not then plenty of skid schools supply their own cars so it's not a problem.
What worries me (a lot of things worry me ) are the idiots like a minority on the Focus ST forum I frequent, who think ESP is for nancies and they have the ability on the road not to need it...ever. Given the chance they would disable ABS as well.
Dave_434 wrote:It's Northern Ireland. After passing the driving test the new driver must display an R plate for one year. During this first year they may not go over 45mph at any time.
jont wrote:I don't think it matters what technology is in place - teenagers will still be teenagers. Much better to provide suitable education/parenting than hope technology will do the job for us and sue the manufacturer when it doesn't.
jbsportstech wrote: Personally when I wouldnt take ST225 over 265bhp-285 as without a special diff your asking to much of a front wheel drive car.
martine wrote:fungus wrote:I agree with Tripple S. Have the technology, but allow drivers the option to overide it... My car has ABS, but no traction controll or ESP etc. It would be nice to be able to disable the ABS and let pupils experience the difference between a car with ABS, and one without, because in most cases their first car will be an older model without any of these aids.
Actually I don't think people should be allowed to overide some things. You have a special case and I'd agree it would be sensible. Then again do you really want to be teaching skid control on the road? If not then plenty of skid schools supply their own cars so it's not a problem.
TripleS wrote:We could still get around perfectly adequately in that sort of thing - except I suppose there would be howls of protest from my friend from I know not Ware.
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