TripleS wrote:Well, yes, quite!
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Somewhat formalised thinking seems to be the IAM/RoSPA way, and it may suit you too - sorry if that sounds rude - but it's not my style. In any case the current IAM/RoSPA standards do not not tally with my notion of advanced driving, and to my mind having their certificate doesn't mean as much as it ought to mean.
Thank goodness some people with an interest in advanced driving do not confine themselves to that level. There was a time - many years ago - when I would have been proud to call myself an IAM Member, but it would now mean nothing to me.
As previously I accept this is very much a minority viewpoint, perhaps it is only my view.
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Best wishes all,
Dave - a specialist in minority viewpoints.
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Dave, I suppose the problem is, technically, is to call yourself an advanced driver, you need to have passed one of the DSA approved tests (I believe RoSPA is) and certainly IAM is. Whether you subscribe to their view is not the issue. I dont subscribe to the IAM's view on many things, although I have at least passed their test and believe since then, with many a pier review that I have now moved beyond IAM level. The trouble is, pier reviews, unless conducted by the right piers don't count for much I guess.
What you are saying is that you believe you are at least a certain standard (I know of many who have never backfilled to either IAM nor RoSPA). The problem is, in my view, a little too rigid but to do a test you have to have some benchmark and criteria. The IAM have made a reasonably good job at defining that criteria of what "basic" advanced driving is and as GS says, if you don't meet that criteria, you don't get the badge. If that isn't whats important to you, no problem. But how then do you claim you are advanced.
Maybe there should be some other criteria (this is what RoSPA have done, and the DIA). What exactly is "safe, systematic, smooth" etc.... who has the right criteria?
Interesting debate anywho.