Horse wrote:
And WRT overtaking, aren't you assuming that JBS was intending to overtake at the junction? I know that I'll occasionally match the speed of a vehicle in lane 1, then accelerate past as we both clear the junction. The 'matching' being an active thing - if the other vehicle slows, so will I.
What jb originally wrote was:
"Onto the 50mph dualtrack where he again opened up it to 70mph fair enough he then slowed into lane one in where I was in two s as I needed to turn off right and then at the last minute he gave what I call a reflex indication and came accross in front of me casuing me to brake and he decided to turn off where I was."
So the picture in my mind is a motorcycle accelerating away onto a dual carriageway in excess of the speed limit being followed by a car. The motorcyclist then moves into lane one and starts to slow, meanwhile the car driver puts on an offside indicator as they approach a slip into the central reservation for a right turn. At this point the rider suddenly puts on an offside indicator and pulls across in front of the car, causing the car driver to brake. This suggests that the car driver was traveling faster than the motorcyclist and had the motorcyclist not pulled out and the car driver not braked an overtake would have resulted. Hence my conclusion that if I had been on a dual carriageway with a right turn immediately ahead then i would not have put myself in an overtaking position on a vehicle in lane one, especially one that had just slowed down.
Oh course jb then rather confirms all this with:
"To clarify I wasn't on a overtake and was 3-4 seconds behind him I was staying in lane 2 with my right hand indicator on because there is a decelartion lane and turning on the right this allows you to head to glastonbury as he did, or in fact head back the way you have come which I did, I had seen enough."
Perhaps I'm being harsh but if I was 3-4 seconds behind someone on a 50mph dual carriageway I don't think i would have to brake if they decided to move out in front of me, not unless the rider had got off his machine and was pushing it across the road.... Alternatively if I was riding my motorcycle along a 50mph dual carriageway in lane one and on looking in my mirrors saw a vehicle 3-4 seconds behind me in lane two I would have no hesitation with indicating and moving into lane two, especially if I wanted to turn right. Oh course, I may have read this all wrong....