fungus wrote:PS. Title should read. Drivers to shoulder the blame when involved in an accident involving a cyclist.
Title obviously too long
Nigel ADI
IAM observer
ROG wrote:fungus wrote:PS. Title should read. Drivers to shoulder the blame when involved in an accident involving a cyclist.
Title obviously too long
Nigel ADI
IAM observer
Drivers to blame in all cyclists collisions
jcochrane wrote:Sounds a bit like the thinking they have in France,if I have been told correctly. I can see some merit in the idea to try and get drivers to think more about cyclists. Being both a cyclist and a driver I can see both sides of the argument. It is my opinion that very few drivers realy understand what it is to be a cyclist. In fact few have the faintest idea about how the speed of a bike varies with gradient, stopping distances, manoeuvrability, balancing (you can't cycle uphill and give hand signals etc.) the effect of weather and wind, road surfaces and road damage etc etc.
Because few drivers have experience of cycling they fail to pick up on clues that tell could tell them what a cyclist needs to, or is about to, do (like knowing if a cyclist is about to turn left or right from his pedal position.)
TripleS wrote:If you are able to keep sufficiently clear of cyclists it probably doesn't matter what they do;..
TripleS wrote:jcochrane wrote:Sounds a bit like the thinking they have in France,if I have been told correctly. I can see some merit in the idea to try and get drivers to think more about cyclists. Being both a cyclist and a driver I can see both sides of the argument. It is my opinion that very few drivers realy understand what it is to be a cyclist. In fact few have the faintest idea about how the speed of a bike varies with gradient, stopping distances, manoeuvrability, balancing (you can't cycle uphill and give hand signals etc.) the effect of weather and wind, road surfaces and road damage etc etc.
Because few drivers have experience of cycling they fail to pick up on clues that tell could tell them what a cyclist needs to, or is about to, do (like knowing if a cyclist is about to turn left or right from his pedal position.)
I think it is possible to give hand signals if the gradient is not too steep in relation to the gearing you are using. If you're struggling with a gear that's too high, the greater effort of pedalling is likely to rule it out. You'd need both hands on the handlebars to stabilise yourself and maintain a steady course; or that's what I would expect.
If you are able to keep sufficiently clear of cyclists it probably doesn't matter what they do; but the matter of pedal position as a guide to which way they're going to turn is interesting. Care to explain?
There, you see: I do take an interest in other road user groups and their problems. Now where's that 'angel' emoticon? It's so seldom I feel its use would be appropriate.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
crr003 wrote:TripleS wrote:If you are able to keep sufficiently clear of cyclists it probably doesn't matter what they do;..
Advice to me was give them enough room so if they tipped over you wouldn't run over their head.
It's worked so far..........
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