Horse wrote:I work for a company where you can't far . . . errr . . . can't do anything . . . unless you have an appropriate risk assessment in place, proper briefings have been done, and ethics approval gained when necessary (and that's more often than you might expect for the sort of stuff we often do). We even have H&S policy for using the stairs - really!
So when someone asked me how Top Gear get away with all the stuff they do on-road (the 'boats', stretch limos, etc.) - let alone the track stuff - I really couldn't answer.
Anyone have any ideas?
martine wrote:I suspect your company or it's advisors have chosen an interpretation of the H&S laws which is rather extreme. We have a H&S professional in my business networking group and he is forever going on about how some companies just go way OTT and give H&S a bad name.
jont wrote:martine wrote:I suspect your company or it's advisors have chosen an interpretation of the H&S laws which is rather extreme. We have a H&S professional in my business networking group and he is forever going on about how some companies just go way OTT and give H&S a bad name.
/cynic - or the advisors are keen to make sure they sustain employment or grow their empire justifying their importance with the amount of paperwork "needed". Afterall, how easy is it to challenge the need for H&S guff? Is it sufficient to have something that says "Don't be a twat"?
martine wrote: I suspect your company or it's advisors have chosen an interpretation of the H&S laws which is rather extreme.
Gromit37 wrote:H & S has gone mad. When I worked at the Uni, we were supposed to go on a course to go above two feet off the ground when using a ladder/stepladder. Personally, I think it is great that Top Gear do wacky things... but there will always be the right people, with the right skills to make sure nothing serious is likely to happen, and if it does, they will be prepared. Preparation and planning are key. Unfortunately, most 'accidents' happen because people do neither.
Before long, rock climbing, parachuting, abseiling, boxing, martial arts, rallying and such like will be regulated out of existance or made so 'safe' nobody will do them anyway. Call me cynical and pessimistic... but if you do I'll call 'Libel Lawyers for U'
jont wrote:To be fair to the H&S people, a lot of what's brought in seems to be out of fear of litigation from ambulance chasing lawyers.
jont wrote:To be fair to the H&S people, a lot of what's brought in seems to be out of fear of litigation from ambulance chasing lawyers. Even if the defence is straightforward, it's time consuming and expensive to go to court.
MGF wrote:It is misconceived to fear litigation.
GJD wrote:Is it, if litigation is expensive, time consuming and stressful? (To whatever extent those factors apply to a claimant as you suggest, I think they would apply equally to the defendant).
GJD wrote:MGF wrote:It is misconceived to fear litigation.
Is it, if litigation is expensive, time consuming and stressful? (To whatever extent those factors apply to a claimant as you suggest, I think they would apply equally to the defendant).
Gromit37 wrote:"I was working on a job where I was given the wrong type of ladder. I fell and..."
And you didn't have to use the ladder, you should have known before using it and nobody forced you to climb the damn thing. But you can claim and it won't cost *you* a penny...
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