jibberjabber25 wrote:..I could just about plan the route, and that's mostly what I was focusing on. I just couldn't look at what he's doing AND plan the route and as soon as we started the nerves set in.
jibberjabber25 wrote:I also told him to use pull-push when rotational steering is OK for slow manoeuvres and I should have known this, I was reading that section of Roadcraft just yesterday about rotational steering.
crr003 wrote:Maybe sort out a few routes that take the time you want to be out and get used to them so you can concentrate on the driving more? But even set routes sometimes have road works or too much traffic and have to be ammended. And set routes get boring for everybody if you make them drive them too often.
rlmr wrote:As for pull/push... don't worry about it. If your "associate" was any good they would manage pull/push .
rlmr wrote:"Rotational Steering" is like the "Brake/Gear overlap." We "old timers" were not allowed to do this and we had to double de-clutch and sustain rev gear changes... not like the easy time folk have of it today . You should be pleased to think that your standard are higher than the regime permits
rlmr wrote:As for pull/push... don't worry about it. If your "associate" was any good they would manage pull/push .
Rennie
jibberjabber25 wrote:rlmr wrote:As for pull/push... don't worry about it. If your "associate" was any good they would manage pull/push .
My "associate" is a senior observer!
jibberjabber25 wrote:rlmr wrote:"Rotational Steering" is like the "Brake/Gear overlap." We "old timers" were not allowed to do this and we had to double de-clutch and sustain rev gear changes... not like the easy time folk have of it today . You should be pleased to think that your standard are higher than the regime permits
I always use pull-push and thank you for your comments. I don't see why you would want to use anything but pull-push doing manoeuvres which is why I suggested using pull-push.
jibberjabber25 wrote:I suppose what he was trying to tell me is that if an associate uses rotational steering when the car is moving very slowly (as mentioned in Roadcraft) I do not need to "correct" them as such.
rlmr wrote:....the whole Quality Assurance ideology behind the IAM test (& RoSPA) is to test against a uniform standard across the country. Do not train folk to pass an Advanced test, train them in Advanced Driving .
Rennie
TripleS wrote:A uniform standard is indeed desirable, but if you get too anal about some detail matters and fail to convince the associate about the justification for it, it will put some people off bothering with the IAM/RoSPA.
TripleS wrote:A uniform standard is indeed desirable, but if you get too anal about some detail matters and fail to convince the associate about the justification for it, it will put some people off bothering with the IAM/RoSPA.
jibberjabber25 wrote:TripleS wrote:A uniform standard is indeed desirable, but if you get too anal about some detail matters and fail to convince the associate about the justification for it, it will put some people off bothering with the IAM/RoSPA.
Well, of course I wouldn't get anal with details. All I'm saying is that I would definitely suggest that an associate uses pull-push, after a couple of runs, not straight away, just introduce different aspects as they go along.
Hopefully, as rmlr was saying I can then show them the advantages of pull-push over rotational and they would be converted!
That's what I was thinking of, don't know if it's right.
jibberjabber25 wrote:...was just beating myself too much over it.
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