drivingsteve wrote:I don't know if it was a particularly bad day for it, or if I was paying extra attention to the issue, but on a long journey home this weekend, I was amazed by the number of drivers demonstrating a total disregard for speed limits.
I'm particularly disciplined in this area of my driving but I noticed on all types of road, ranging from 30mph to 70mph zones that if I drove near enough exactly at the speed limit, there would always be vehicles waiting to get past, or actually overtaking me.
I know there's disagreement regarding the suitability of some speed limits, but that's a separate argument. For now, the numbers on sticks are legally binding and offer no room for subjectivity as to whether they must be obeyed.
Even in the field of advanced driving, where we aim to demonstrate ability and flexibility in our approach which is above and beyond the average motorist, we surely have an obligation to do so within the law.
drivingsteve wrote:I don't know if it was a particularly bad day for it, or if was paying extra attention to the issue, but on a long journey home this weekend, I was amazed by the number of drivers demonstrating a total disregard for speed limits.
jont wrote:waremark wrote:7db wrote:Did you test your horn before setting off?
Not me. But what am I missing here? What on earth is this about?
Technical legalities one imagines.
waremark wrote:A very difficult question to discuss in a public forum - sensible folk whose personal values say it is sometimes ok to exceed the speed limit may well not want to explain their position openly. And there are many sensible folk with such values.
PeterE wrote:It's an interesting question as to why disregard for (many) speed limits is so widespread, but surely you've noticed this before?
And I'm sure I read a press release from the DfT a year or so ago saying that the level of speed limit compliance had actually increased in recent years.
lordgrover wrote:It's more noticeable to me recently, but that's because like most 'civilians', I've been a serial offender. It's only since I've started 'formal AD' that I've rigidly observed limits. That and the ever-reducing limits in hitherto NSL country roads and lanes to 50 and even 40 mph.
Horse wrote:However, it's undeniable that higher speeds adversely affect the outcome of crashes, and disparate speeds (eg 'speeder', whether illegal or inappropriate, relative to other traffic) is likely to make a crash more likely.
7db wrote:It's an example of a legal requirement that really doesn't make a lot of difference. Such as minor speed infractions.
... it's very unlikely that a [minor speed infringement] will result in either a crash or attracting the attention of the police.
JamesAllport wrote:As the credit crunch hit, I was commuting every day down the M11 and M25 from Cambridge to Greenhithe in Kent. I noticed a real change during that year - far more drivers obeyed the 70mph limit as the price of fuel rose and the economy got tougher.
drivingsteve wrote:I suppose it's a matter of personal opinion which approach represents the best interpretation of advanced driving.
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